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[00:27] <GhostNr1> Hallo?
[00:27] <GhostNr1> are there some one here???
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[01:25] <Ghost_Nr1> Hallo!!!
[01:25] <Ghost_Nr1> I need some help now!!!
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[01:37] <Dam> yo ho ho and a bottle of applejuice
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[01:56] <Spock> Mornin
[01:57] <Spock> Anyone alive ?
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[02:23] <Spock> Hi tom
[02:23] <Spock> Wassup ?
[02:25] <Tom> Hi spock
[02:26] <Tom> what is the general system performance rules that you are following?
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[02:32] <Spock> seen Tom
[02:32] <Yoda> Tom was last seen on IRC 6 minutes and 1 seconds ago, saying: what is the general system performance rules that you are following? [Fri Nov 5 04:27:17 1999]
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[02:46] <Spock> be back
[02:46] <Spock> Strange: My XChat crashes if I use x11amp at the same time :(
[02:49] <Spock> brb, reboot
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[02:57] <Spock> be back
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[03:20] <Spock> Hi all
[03:20] <Spock> rogue
[03:20] <Spock> snag
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[03:33] <roguemtl> Greetings
[03:33] <jose1> happy diwali
[03:34] <Spock> He
[03:34] <Spock> yo
[03:35] <jose1> you are calling from?
[03:36] <jose1> what happen
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[04:46] <Spock> Yo Rhi
[04:46] <Spock> sup ?
[04:47] <Rhiannon> Not much, just getting ready for work.. you?
[04:48] <Spock> Hmm, also nut much
[04:48] <Spock> Will go shoppin' for weekend then
[04:48] <Rhiannon> Have fun :)
[04:49] <Spock> THX, U2
[04:49] <Spock> L8R
[04:52] <Spock> brb, changin account
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[05:01] <Spock> be back
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[05:19] <McCoy> hi
[05:19] <McCoy> someone in ?
[05:19] <McCoy> too early...
[05:19] <McCoy> seen Rhiannon
[05:19] <Yoda> Rhiannon was last seen on IRC 31 minutes and 2 seconds ago, saying: Have fun :) [Fri Nov 5 06:50:01 1999]
[05:20] <McCoy> k
[05:20] <McCoy> L8R
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[05:40] <mick> installed pre-0.90 and there was no HOWTO under /usr/doc
[05:44] <mick> Spock_shopping: Bist du hier?
[05:46] <mick> i was trying to figure out how to make a module permanent
[05:47] <mick> the nic in my system at home uses the tulip chip
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[05:49] <mick> I insmod /lib/modules/2.2.10/net/tulip.o but when I reboot it dies
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[06:15] <spartacus> Hola.
[06:16] <fejj_sleep> mick
[06:16] <fejj_sleep> you need to recompile your kernel
[06:16] <spartacus> I forget the name to some ezine i was on a couple of days ago. Not linuxjournal/gazette. Something else, anyone have any ideas??
[06:16] <fejj_sleep> insmod is not permanant
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[06:17] <mick> I was afraid of that. right now I don't have the source or 2.2.10 and the source under pre-0.90 has already moved to 2.2.12
[06:20] <mick> The harsh thing was that I have controlled road runner access at home and I couldn't get rrlmsd to make and I couldn't ftp to the source
[06:22] <mick> Central New York Road Runner (cable modem) is going to be opening up the service in another 40 days
[06:35] <roguemtl> Depending on the authentication scheme they use, rrlmsd might not be the right mechanism
[06:36] <roguemtl> There is no Road Runner-wide auth scheme... each region appears to have the option of choosing which they use
[06:36] <roguemtl> Do you authenticate against a 'TAS'?
[06:37] <mick> not sure. But I have rrlmsd up and running on Debian kernel 2.0.36 and it works
[06:37] <mick> also the maintainer for rrlmsd uses the central new york road runner
[06:38] <mick> i didn't write down the error messages from the make
[06:38] <mick> there were problems under rrlmsd.c pulling from /usr/include
[06:40] <mick> I think I will go back to Stampede Europa and try from there.
[06:42] Nick change: fejj -> fejj_class
[06:42] <fejj_class> argh
[06:42] <fejj_class> rogue
[06:42] <fejj_class> I get way too many feature requests :\
[06:43] <fejj_class> support netscape mail!, support esmh mail!, make it so I can have my mail anywhere on the filesystem without having to type the whole path!
[06:43] <roguemtl> fejj: GPG. :)
[06:43] <fejj_class> heh, now gpg I will do
[06:43] <fejj_class> but some of these others...I mean, comeon :\
[06:44] <roguemtl> mick: did you install the kernel sources?
[06:44] <roguemtl> fejj: indeed.
[06:44] <fejj_class> if I make it support every damn mailbox format in the world, it just gets bloated...not to mention has a better chance of having bugs :(
[06:44] <roguemtl> 'modules'
[06:44] <roguemtl> 'modules' and CVS
[06:44] <fejj_class> heh
[06:44] Nick change: fejj_class -> fejj
[06:45] <mick> roguemtl: i didn't have them
[06:45] <fejj> I don't have class for another hour
[06:45] <fejj> what am I thinking?
[06:45] Action: fejj gets food
[06:45] <mick> roguemtl: couldn't get on to ftp and pre-0.90 binary does not include the source like Europa does.
[06:48] <mick> bbl. got to go install win95, up chuck and die.
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[07:03] <fejj> why is it that users are never happy?
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[07:51] <Minotaur> Good morning, folks.
[07:51] Action: roguemtl notes that someone cooked /tmp
[07:51] <Minotaur> On whiplash?
[07:51] <Minotaur> Probably cleaned when it rebooted a couple days ago.
[07:51] <roguemtl> ahh
[07:51] <roguemtl> Yuck.
[07:51] Action: roguemtl slaps self ;)
[07:51] <Minotaur> Don't store things in /tmp that aren't temp!
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[07:51] <roguemtl> they were temp... just not as temp as planned ;P
[07:52] <lamfada_unconscious> omfg, Bill Gates is the Antichrist!
[07:52] <roguemtl> I have a backup copy... just not currently acccessible ;)
[07:52] <lamfada_unconscious> http://www.dogbrain.com/antichrist.html
[07:52] <roguemtl> Federal judge is supposed to make an initial ruling on the Microsoft monopoly today
[07:52] Nick change: lamfada_unconscious -> lamfada
[07:52] <Minotaur> Nah, not today.
[07:52] <Minotaur> Just start. :)
[07:53] <lamfada> lux: its just brain-dead SGML
[07:54] <lamfada> XML, I mean
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[07:57] <Minotaur> XML is VERY nice.
[07:57] <Minotaur> We are probably going to implement it in a couple of areas for our next site.
[07:57] <lamfada> what are you going to use it for?
[07:57] <Minotaur> For one, it will allow users to use our pre-defined tags to generate a layout easily.
[07:57] <Minotaur> For example, we have a "School Newspaper" that schools can put together.
[07:58] <Minotaur> Each newspaper story is stored in a database, for obvious reasons.
[07:58] <Minotaur> But we don't want the poor teacher trying to layout the paper to have to make the database calls for each story.
[07:58] <lamfada> it can be
[07:58] <Minotaur> It is much nicer for us to create a tag called <STORY> that they can use like: <STORY ID=352>
[07:59] <Minotaur> And it insert that story there, and we do all the database calls on the backend when parsing that tag.
[07:59] <Minotaur> Or perhaps <LOGO SECTION=SPORTS>
[07:59] <Minotaur> To insert the sports banner.
[08:00] <Minotaur> Pretty much.
[08:00] <lamfada> also, XML allows industries to have standard ways of presenting informaion, legal footnotes, for example, are different than scientific footnotes
[08:00] <Minotaur> The kids will type in their crap to a textarea in a form that we store.
[08:01] <Minotaur> lux - I think I have Signals, isn't that the one I was in Chapel Hill with you?
[08:01] <Minotaur> XML can also be used to communicate between multiple tiers of application servers.
[08:02] <Minotaur> For example, we may very well write a Tuxedo service to parse XML that is sent from our app server, BEA's WebLogic Server.
[08:02] <lamfada> also, the "Whats Related" button in Netscape is XML.
[08:02] <lamfada> Its a demo app to show how to add stuff to the browser, basically
[08:04] Action: lux has php3 documentation in hand
[08:04] <lamfada> does anyone here remember / have in their calc book the series for pi / 4 ?
[08:04] <Minotaur> LOL, don't like it anymore?
[08:05] Action: lux was considering grabbing the XML documentation too, wondering if it worth while
[08:05] <lamfada> you can never have too much docos
[08:05] <lamfada> s/much/many/
[08:05] <Minotaur> LOL
[08:05] <Minotaur> Get a bigger rack?
[08:05] <Minotaur> Or is there no room?
[08:05] <Minotaur> Hmm, that reminds me, I need to get a big cd book for the drive home....
[08:06] <Minotaur> Gotcha.
[08:06] <Minotaur> Sure, I'll take it if I don't have it.
[08:06] <Minotaur> And I think it's Counterparts that I have, not Signals.
[08:06] <Minotaur> I know I've got Moving Pictures and Chronicles.
[08:06] <Minotaur> Yeah, I don't see Signals on my mp3 server at home.
[08:06] <Minotaur> So I must not have it.
[08:07] <Minotaur> How big of a book do you need?
[08:07] <lamfada> hmm, I guess I will calculate e instead, I found that one
[08:07] <Minotaur> I'm looking for either two 100's or a 200.
[08:07] <Minotaur> That big or smaller?
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[08:08] <Minotaur> CaseLogic makes one that's $38 for 200 cd's.
[08:08] <Minotaur> They've also got a 256 that goes for $48
[08:09] <Minotaur> I think I'd rather have a 200 than a 256, more even. :)
[08:09] <lamfada> but 256 is geekier
[08:09] Action: lux has been in the process of ripping most CDs to mp3
[08:10] <Minotaur> Yeah, I've ripped all my cd's to mp3.
[08:11] <Minotaur> 'course the goal was to keep a multia in the car to play the mp3's, but it's spent more time in my bedroom than in the car.
[08:11] <Minotaur> Nope, never heard of 'em.
[08:11] <Minotaur> lux - Do you know what aros charges for co-lo service?
[08:11] <Minotaur> Single box, 512k/sec?
[08:11] <Minotaur> I'll have to check 'em out next time I'm over.
[08:12] <Minotaur> co-location.
[08:12] <Minotaur> Yeah.
[08:12] <Minotaur> 'kay, I'll look on the web page, see what I find.
[08:12] <Minotaur> I really just want dsl. :(
[08:12] <Minotaur> Or cable modem.
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[08:13] <solitude> y0
[08:13] <solitude> g2g
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[08:14] <Minotaur> 'kay, thanks.
[08:14] <Minotaur> Howdy, Leno.
[08:17] <Minotaur> Thanks.
[08:18] <lamfada> does anyone here run Intel SMP ?
[08:19] <Leno_Work> Yo.
[08:19] <roguemtl> Indeed
[08:22] <lamfada> lux: is that the only drive in that system?
[08:23] <lamfada> OK, you need three partitions
[08:23] <lamfada> one windows, one linux, one swap
[08:23] <lamfada> swap <= 128MB
[08:23] <lamfada> use cfdisk to create them
[08:24] <lamfada> cfdisk allows you to create partitions at the end
[08:24] <lamfada> so you can create the swap first at the end
[08:24] <lamfada> winders usually likes being first
[08:25] <lamfada> and lilo only really likes <= 1024 cyl (logical or phys), so yes
[08:26] <lamfada> hdd are divided into cylinders
[08:27] <lamfada> LILO can only boot a partition if the first sector is on a cylinder <= 1024
[08:27] <lamfada> is fdisk text, or like windows fdisk ?
[08:28] <lamfada> bummer
[08:28] <lamfada> ok
[08:29] <lamfada> what I usually do is make the swap part first and record the numbers
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[08:29] <disq> lala ppl
[08:29] <lamfada> then I calculate how big to make the other partitions
[08:29] Action: disq missed the devel meeting
[08:29] <lamfada> lux: no, it should be windows, linux, swap
[08:29] <lamfada> but do this:
[08:29] <lamfada> create the swap
[08:29] <lamfada> record the numbers
[08:30] <lamfada> delete swap
[08:30] <lamfada> calculate size for windows and linux
[08:30] <lamfada> (50% of remaining, or whatever)
[08:30] <lamfada> make windows, linux, swap
[08:30] <lamfada> I like cfdisk b/c fdisk can be braindead
[08:32] <DrFrog> of to woerk
[08:32] <DrFrog> s/of/off/
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[08:32] <Minotaur> 'kay, thanks for looking, though.
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[08:33] <lamfada> hiya
[08:33] <Minotaur> Howdy.
[08:33] <Leno_Work> Yo Minotaur.
[08:33] <Leno_Work> Minotaur: Thinking of co-locating?
[08:33] <misty> lamfy, mino, leno
[08:33] <Leno_Work> Hi
[08:33] Action: misty eats yummy homemade taco salad
[08:34] <Minotaur> Yeah, I need to get alpha to bandwidth.
[08:35] <Minotaur> Mmm, Taco Salad.
[08:35] <misty> ameh
[08:35] <misty> err amen
[08:35] <misty> hehe
[08:35] <Minotaur> One of my dorm favorites.
[08:35] <misty> alpha is in dire need of bandwidth :)
[08:35] <Minotaur> Doritoes and salsa.
[08:35] <Minotaur> With canned corn, etc.
[08:35] <Minotaur> Mmm....
[08:35] <lamfada> mmm
[08:35] <misty> eww doritos yuck
[08:35] <Minotaur> Lenolium: You gonna hook me up with a special deal at the xm?
[08:35] <lamfada> I personally like the Red Hot Blues
[08:35] <lamfada> organic blue corn with cayenne
[08:35] <Minotaur> 20G drive with bob's name written all over /etc/passwd. :)
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[08:36] Action: misty has ground beef, shredded lettuce, peppers, diced tomatoes, olives, and kidney beans, doused with chi-chis salsa, in a tortilla shell
[08:36] <disq> [e-t] [some guy. :P]
[08:36] <misty> oh, and diced onions :)
[08:36] Action: lamfada is hungry now
[08:36] <misty> etetet!
[08:36] <Minotaur> Nah, I never had fresh vegies or ground beef in the dorm. :)
[08:36] <e-t> hey misty!
[08:36] <disq> Minotaur: devel meeting logs available?
[08:37] <misty> et, we're using gcorchestra.org :)
[08:37] <Minotaur> Umm, devel meeting is tonight, isn't it?
[08:37] <e-t> misty: help me get my scanner working
[08:37] <e-t> misty: ew
[08:37] <misty> bleh on you
[08:37] <misty> you should say "Good!"
[08:38] <misty> it isn't my domain, I don't care :) I'm just doing the site
[08:38] <e-t> good!
[08:38] <misty> and I don't know much about scanners, lpt or usb?
[08:38] <e-t> misty: scsi :P
[08:38] <Minotaur> I think it's 6:30 tonight.
[08:38] <Minotaur> MST, that is.
[08:38] <lamfada> lux: what do you mean?
[08:39] <misty> et: ask mino :)
[08:39] <misty> or leno
[08:39] <misty> or both :)
[08:39] <misty> lux: it can only do it by blocks
[08:39] <misty> so it rounds up or down
[08:39] <lamfada> what misty said :)
[08:39] <disq> Minotaur: really? uh.. my timezone converter sucks then
[08:39] <lamfada> A block is a certain size
[08:40] <misty> <misty> lux: it can only do it by blocks
[08:40] <misty> <misty> so it rounds up or down
[08:40] <e-t> wow.. fejjie's new status box is nice
[08:40] <lamfada> you can not make a partition that ends in the middle of a block
[08:40] <Minotaur> It's just under 9 hours from now.
[08:40] <Minotaur> (assuming I can count...BAD assumption...)
[08:41] <disq> uh.. i thought it was, 10 hours ago
[08:41] <lamfada> lux: an easy way to find out sould be create a partition that is 2049, it will probably round up
[08:42] Nick change: disq -> disq^q2
[08:42] <lamfada> finish ?
[08:43] <misty> hehe
[08:43] <misty> didn't you run linux before, lux?
[08:43] <lamfada> lux: that would be good b/c it is easier to diagnose when you are physically there
[08:43] <Minotaur> LOL
[08:43] <lamfada> (just ask my tech support friends)
[08:43] <Minotaur> I hope to not see her. :)
[08:43] <Minotaur> What did she do this time, show up at your door?
[08:44] <Minotaur> Did she ever pay him?
[08:44] <Minotaur> LOL
[08:44] <Minotaur> She's quite the bitch.
[08:44] <Minotaur> :)
[08:44] <joyce> lux: don't ya have dialup access through aros?
[08:45] <joyce> use that, then =)
[08:45] <joyce> oh, ok. that works.
[08:45] <lamfada> brb
[08:45] <joyce> heh. i get fussed at for not quoting pricing at people.
[08:46] <Minotaur> LOL
[08:46] <Minotaur> I'm gonna have to agree with Aros on this one.
[08:46] <Minotaur> Let sales do sales.
[08:47] <Leno_Work> http://www.xmission.com/business/colocation.html
[08:48] <Minotaur> xm is expensive. :(
[08:48] <misty> consistency
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[08:48] <misty> I can correct her spelling at liberty since she has me on ignore...
[08:49] <misty> hi, gauze :)
[08:49] <gauze> hie
[08:49] <Leno_Work> Minotaur: Well, if we want the machine to be habib.kill-9.net, I can co-lo it for free. :)
[08:49] <gauze> is Stampede 2.43 out yet
[08:49] <Minotaur> LOL
[08:49] <Minotaur> What is habib?
[08:49] <gauze> habib is like a middle eastern name. besides that....
[08:50] <misty> lol
[08:50] <Minotaur> I meant what kind of box?
[08:50] <Leno_Work> actually, it would be horus.kill-9.net (horus was the name of the mp3 server @ UTW )
[08:51] <misty> well Leno I don't think any www is responding, so that's why I didn'get get into that web page
[08:52] <Minotaur> Mmm, quake.brickwall.org.....
[08:52] <Minotaur> It lives again!
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[08:54] <Cheech> Hello
[08:55] <misty> Cheech!
[08:55] <misty> ltns
[08:55] <Minotaur> Cheech!
[08:55] <Leno_Work> Yay. stampede Linux install fest.
[08:56] <lamfada> Leno_Work: do you know the series for pi / 4 ?
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[08:56] <Leno_Work> lamfada: Nope
[08:56] <lamfada> Leno_Work: I am looking at doing a burn-in test calculating e and pi
[08:56] <lamfada> Leno_Work: but I can only find the series for e
[08:57] <lamfada> damnit
[08:57] <Leno_Work> Minotaur: But if you want to co-lo a bawx, let me know, I will need root, and will have to claim it as mine, but admins can co-lo for free.
[08:57] <Minotaur> 'kay.
[08:57] <Minotaur> What kind of bandwidth?
[08:58] <Minotaur> And does it have to be intel. :)
[08:58] <Leno_Work> Ethernet to a 24MB UUNet feed (with 2 peering points), and a Alpha would do nicely.
[08:59] <Minotaur> That would be skibum.
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[09:00] <Minotaur> Well, I've got a 600 Mhz alpha that as soon as I revive would be a good candidate.
[09:00] <Leno_Work> Hmm... Yeah, it'd do nicely.
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[09:01] <misty> you haven't revived it yet?
[09:02] <Minotaur> It's still band-aid'ed.
[09:02] <Minotaur> I get to spend all weekend working on it. :(
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[09:03] <misty> aww
[09:03] <misty> no time for fun on the weekend, eh?
[09:06] <Minotaur> I'm sure I'll find some.
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[09:07] Nick change: mrOpie_zZzZz -> mrOpie
[09:07] Nick change: Spock_shopping -> Spock
[09:07] <Spock> Yoooo
[09:07] <lamfada> morning mrOpie
[09:07] <Spock> Greeterings
[09:07] <Spock> ;P
[09:07] <mrOpie> hey lam, spock
[09:07] <lamfada> heya Spock
[09:07] <lamfada> wie gehts ?
[09:07] <Spock> gut
[09:08] <Spock> dir ?
[09:08] <Cheech> Hmmm... another day at work
[09:08] <lamfada> mir ist es gut
[09:08] <Spock> k
[09:08] <Spock> Mino ?
[09:08] <Minotaur> lux - alpha is in many pieces right now, and crashing about 4 times daily.
[09:08] <misty> spock: hallo
[09:08] <Minotaur> Spock: Yes?
[09:08] <misty> ich fehle nicht gut :( ich krampe :(( lol
[09:08] <Spock> misty: Huh ?
[09:09] #stampede: mode change '+o Minotaur' by Spock!spock@sulu.csn.tu-chemnitz.de
[09:09] <Minotaur> Hmm, I wonder if my kernel.org mirror access is still valid?
[09:09] <mrOpie> SHAZBOT!
[09:09] <mrOpie> COBT IS UP TO $120!
[09:09] <lamfada> COBT?
[09:09] <Cheech> Quick poll! How many are going to invest in the Andover IPO after seeing how well the Red Hat and Cobolt IPOs went?
[09:10] <gauze> misty has german cramps I guess
[09:10] <Minotaur> Andover doesn't have a very good revenue path.
[09:10] <misty> :)
[09:10] <misty> hehe
[09:10] <gauze> invest? hahahha
[09:10] <gauze> too much kraut
[09:10] <Minotaur> Any stock increase will be purely hype based.
[09:10] <misty> no gauze
[09:10] <misty> too much estrogen :P
[09:10] <Cheech> As is most internet stocks
[09:10] <gauze> misty: yeah I figured
[09:10] <misty> hehe
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[09:11] <misty> skibumskibumskibum
[09:11] <misty> bumski
[09:11] <skibum> hey
[09:11] <Yoda> hi, skibum
[09:11] <misty> heh
[09:11] <gauze> misty: just making doitch jokes :/
[09:11] <misty> how are ya, bumski?
[09:11] <Spock> Heya ski
[09:11] <mrOpie> it opened at $139!
[09:11] <mrOpie> I couldn't have gotten into this one :/
[09:11] <Spock> misty: LOL
[09:11] Action: misty giggles, I love it, it's cute
[09:11] <Spock> misty: bum the ski !
[09:11] <gauze> I have been living off my change collection this week personally
[09:11] Topic changed on #stampede by skibum!skibum@stampede.varesearch.com: Stampede GNU/Linux (http://www.stampede.org)| Also doubles as #spruce; Developer/user meeting today at 18:30 MST (UTC-0700) in #stampede.
[09:11] <gauze> I'm thinking of investing in a loaf of bread soon
[09:11] <skibum> I'm sorta free right now.
[09:11] <skibum> yo
[09:12] <mrOpie> cool
[09:12] <misty> bumski is free
[09:12] <mrOpie> thread spruce :)
[09:12] <Spock> skibum: How many ours are that to ?
[09:12] <skibum> does anyone know of an administration tool that lets you run a single command on many hosts?
[09:12] <skibum> like:
[09:12] <skibum> run_on_all_lnux_boxes echo hwclock -s >> /etc/rc.d/rc.local
[09:12] <skibum> ?
[09:12] <misty> spock: 'hours' :)
[09:12] <gauze> my feels on gui mail clients are much the same as my feelings about gui irc clients.
[09:12] <Spock> misty: Yeah, thx
[09:13] <gauze> oi
[09:13] <misty> it is uh... maybe 7.75?
[09:13] <misty> no
[09:13] <Spock> skibum: Check mal dei mail ...
[09:13] <misty> 8 I think
[09:13] <Spock> misty: THX
[09:14] <Spock> misty: That gonna be a long night :P
[09:14] <misty> lol
[09:14] <misty> I don't hafta be at it, I don't care :)
[09:14] <gauze> skibum: .sh script with rsh commands in it? doesn't sound very secure does it
[09:14] <Spock> misty: He he
[09:15] <skibum> gauze: nah, doesn't sound to secure :)
[09:15] <skibum> ?
[09:15] <gauze> for i in `cat my_hosts`;do rsh $i echo hwclock -s >> /etc/rc.d/rc.local;done
[09:15] <skibum> I was looking more along the lines of like "admind" started in inetd
[09:15] <gauze> or ssh
[09:15] <skibum> right
[09:15] <skibum> something like that
[09:15] <gauze> but that's passwded
[09:16] <skibum> I may just write one
[09:16] <skibum> :)
[09:16] <gauze> if it's behind a firewall I guess it isn't too risky
[09:16] <gauze> depends on the localusers
[09:16] Action: Spock pats gauze
[09:16] <skibum> I'm not horribly worried about security
[09:17] <gauze> so there you go.
[09:17] <skibum> but we're talking over 200 machines with different passwords here..
[09:17] <misty> hey cool
[09:17] <misty> I have access to priority.redhat.com
[09:17] <gauze> yeeash!
[09:17] <Spock> skibum: You can make a distributed NFS directory ...
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[09:17] <skibum> Well, spock: that won't exactly work.
[09:18] <skibum> Say I want to add something to every machines root crontab
[09:18] <gauze> ok scratch this netbsd idea I guess, no support for my scsi card
[09:18] <skibum> or say I want to delete every /etc/rc.d/tmp file
[09:18] <Spock> skibum: No I meant a NFS dir with a script on it ...
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[09:19] <gauze> what good would this fileserver be if it can't mount the main storage drive :P
[09:20] <skibum> netbsd is good stuff
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[09:20] <skibum> Spock, I follow
[09:20] <skibum> Spock, but then, I still have to telnet to every machine and run the script :)
[09:21] <Spock> skibum: That is a reason but no obstacle ...
[09:21] <gauze> yeah but if it doesn't support my scsi card it's worthless in this case :/
[09:21] <skibum> yeah :(
[09:21] <Spock> skibum: j/k
[09:21] <skibum> :)
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[09:23] <gauze> too bad I have no clue about device driver writing. or hm. anything else.
[09:23] Action: misty feels the void that mrOpie left :(
[09:23] <misty> hehe
[09:23] <Spock> misty: I'm here ;P
[09:23] <misty> it isn't the same :P
[09:23] <gauze> dissed
[09:23] <gauze> heh
[09:24] <misty> lol
[09:24] <gauze> hm looks like I'm stuck with linux on this machine.
[09:24] <misty> stuck?
[09:24] <misty> whatcha mean?
[09:24] <gauze> no *bsd supports this card so that leaves M$ and Linux
[09:24] <gauze> well
[09:24] <gauze> I have a linux box already
[09:25] <gauze> I wanted to put something ELSE on this box
[09:25] <Spock> skibum: Mail ?
[09:25] <misty> gauze: are you sure?
[09:25] <gauze> but none of the BSDs support this old assed scsi card
[09:25] <misty> you should ask in #freebsd on undernet
[09:25] <gauze> I checked the FAQ
[09:25] <gauze> the hardware compatibility list etc
[09:25] <misty> maybe you can start with an old BSD and upgrade after you get the driver supported
[09:25] <skibum> are you using linux fdisk?
[09:25] <gauze> I didn't even check openbsd that has less hardware support than free or netbsd
[09:26] <skibum> n/m
[09:26] <misty> gauze: make the kern and mfsroot images
[09:26] <misty> and try to boot
[09:26] <misty> if it doesn't detect your controller it won't boot with them
[09:26] <gauze> this card will never be supported I guess. it's old.
[09:26] <misty> that way you haven't lost anything if it doesn't work
[09:26] <skibum> what card is it?
[09:26] <gauze> Always IN-2000
[09:26] <misty> and it just might work after all
[09:26] <skibum> Ah
[09:26] <skibum> heh
[09:26] <misty> freebsd tends to do stuff like taht
[09:26] <skibum> i had one of those POS's at my old job.
[09:26] <gauze> heh
[09:27] <gauze> it's in a 386
[09:27] <gauze> it's a gem in that heap!
[09:27] <skibum> :)
[09:27] <misty> ski: are mino's X packages in pre-0.90 yet?
[09:27] <gauze> geez it's noon and I haven't played quake yet
[09:28] <Minotaur> Nah, my packages are binary only.
[09:29] <misty> :P
[09:29] <Leno_Work> Yay, 38ms ping through UUNet's networks.
[09:30] <Spock> skiiiiiiibuuuum
[09:30] <misty> U... U... U net u!
[09:30] Action: misty giggles
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[09:34] Nick change: Spock -> Spock_washing_up
[09:34] <lamfada> aha, pi = 6 * arcsin(0.5)
[09:34] <lamfada> pi = 4 * arctan(1.0)
[09:34] <lamfada> pi = 3 * arccos(0.5)
[09:34] <lamfada> I still want the series
[09:34] <Spock_washing_up> lamfada: pi = pi * cos(0) ;)
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[09:34] <lamfada> lol
[09:35] <Spock_washing_up> Yoda: PI ?
[09:35] <Yoda> no idea, spock_washing_up
[09:35] <lamfada> Yoda: pie?
[09:35] <Yoda> lamfada: i haven't a clue
[09:35] <lamfada> Yoda: misty?
[09:35] <Yoda> misty is silly
[09:35] <lamfada> Yoda: Spock?
[09:35] <Yoda> Spock is probably the Security Head of Stampede.
[09:36] <Spock_washing_up> Yoda: PI is a constant (about 3.14)
[09:36] <Spock_washing_up> Yoda: PI ?
[09:36] <Yoda> PI is a constant (about 3.14)
[09:36] <lamfada> Yoda: e
[09:36] <Yoda> e is NICE
[09:36] <lamfada> heh
[09:36] <gauze> hah
[09:36] <lamfada> Yoda: enlightenment ?
[09:36] <Yoda> i think enlightenment is running nice today
[09:36] <gauze> Yoda: E
[09:36] <Yoda> E is NICE
[09:36] <Spock_washing_up> Yoda: pi ?
[09:36] <Yoda> pi is a constant (about 3.14)
[09:36] <gauze> about 3.14
[09:36] <gauze> heh
[09:37] <Spock_washing_up> gauze: I'll look it up later
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[09:37] <lamfada> Yoda: ln(5)
[09:37] <e-t> hmm
[09:37] <lamfada> Yoda: ln 5
[09:37] <lamfada> Yoda: log 5
[09:37] <Yoda> 1.609437912434
[09:37] <misty> yoda: log 50
[09:37] <Yoda> 3.912023005428
[09:37] <Spock_washing_up> OK, bbl + ~ .5 hour (wash up)
[09:38] <lamfada> Yoda: O(n) is big
[09:38] <lamfada> Yoda: O(n)
[09:38] <Yoda> O(n) is big
[09:38] <misty> yoda: misty is cute
[09:38] <Yoda> ...but misty is silly...
[09:38] <misty> yoda; misty
[09:38] <misty> yoda: no, misty is cute
[09:38] <Yoda> okay, misty.
[09:38] <misty> yoda: misty
[09:38] <Yoda> it has been said that misty is cute
[09:38] <lamfada> Yoda: O(log(n)) is small
[09:38] <misty> very good
[09:38] <lamfada> Yoda: O(log(n))
[09:38] <Yoda> O(log(n)) is small
[09:39] <lamfada> Yoda: searching a tree is O(log(n))
[09:39] <lamfada> Yoda: searching a tree
[09:39] <Yoda> searching a tree is O(log(n))
[09:39] <lamfada> hmm
[09:39] <lamfada> no nested substitution
[09:39] <lamfada> Yoda: searching a tree
[09:39] <Yoda> searching a tree is O(log(n))
[09:39] <lamfada> Yoda: searching a tree
[09:39] <Yoda> it has been said that searching a tree is O(log(n))
[09:39] <misty> lol
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[09:40] <misty> yoda: spock can't cook
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[09:40] <misty> yoda: spock
[09:40] <Yoda> i guess spock is the Security Head of Stampede.
[09:40] <lamfada> Yoda: spock
[09:40] <Yoda> spock is the Security Head of Stampede.
[09:40] <misty> yoda: no, spock can't cook
[09:40] <misty> yoda: spock
[09:40] <Yoda> i heard spock was the Security Head of Stampede.
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[09:40] <misty> :P
[09:40] <misty> yoda: e-t is cute
[09:40] <Yoda> ...but e-t is too...
[09:40] <misty> yoda: no, e-t is cute
[09:40] <Yoda> okay, misty.
[09:40] <misty> yoda: et
[09:40] <misty> yoda: e-t
[09:40] <Yoda> e-t is cute
[09:40] <misty> :)
[09:41] <e-t> :)
[09:41] <lamfada> Yoda: yoda
[09:41] <Yoda> i am are green
[09:41] <lamfada> Yoda: yoda
[09:41] <Yoda> i am are green
[09:41] <misty> why doesn't yoda speak in yoda-speak?
[09:41] <lamfada> Yoda: green am i
[09:41] <gauze> who wants to read that all day
[09:41] <lamfada> Yoda: green
[09:41] <misty> yoda: green
[09:41] <lamfada> Yoda: yoda is a bot
[09:42] <Yoda> ...but yoda is are green...
[09:42] <lamfada> Yoda: yoda is a bot
[09:42] <Yoda> ...but yoda is are green...
[09:42] <misty> yoda: no, yoda is a bot
[09:42] <misty> :)
[09:42] <lamfada> Yoda: yoda
[09:42] <Yoda> i am are green
[09:42] <gauze> hahah
[09:42] <lamfada> Yoda: no, yoda is a bot
[09:42] <lamfada> Yoda: yoda
[09:42] <Yoda> i think i am are green
[09:42] <misty> lolol
[09:42] <misty> let me do it
[09:42] <lamfada> k
[09:42] <misty> yoda: yoda is a bot
[09:42] <Yoda> ...but yoda is are green...
[09:42] <misty> yoda:no, yoda is a bot
[09:42] <misty> yoda: no, yoda is a bot
[09:42] <lamfada> Yoda: yoda:
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[09:43] <misty> answer me, yoda :P
[09:43] <lamfada> Yoda: yoda
[09:43] <Yoda> yoda is, like, are green
[09:43] <gauze> yoda is fubar
[09:43] <lamfada> Yoda: yoda is FUBAR
[09:43] <Yoda> ...but yoda is are green...
[09:43] <misty> haha
[09:43] <lamfada> Yoda: no, yoda is FUBAR
[09:43] <misty> yoda: shut up
[09:43] <Yoda> :X
[09:43] <lamfada> Yoda: Yoda
[09:43] <Yoda> i am probably are green
[09:43] <misty> hehe
[09:43] <misty> that's so cute
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[09:44] <misty> yoda: spartacus
[09:44] <Yoda> spartacus is probably a texan.
[09:44] <Spartacus> Hola
[09:44] <misty> a texan, lol
[09:44] Action: misty giggles
[09:44] <lamfada> Tag
[09:44] <misty> spartacus: yoda is totally currupt... ;)
[09:44] <Spartacus> misty: Have you told yoda that texas is the reason? 8)
[09:44] <lamfada> yeah, hes taking bribes
[09:44] <misty> lamfada: spartacus ist nicht deutsch :)
[09:44] <lamfada> ah well, its all the same
[09:45] <misty> er ist aus die schewiz ich denke
[09:45] <misty> schweiz
[09:45] <Spartacus> lamfada: I am a texan!
[09:45] <gauze> texas is the reason that the presidents dead
[09:45] <lamfada> heh
[09:45] <misty> no
[09:45] <misty> sweden
[09:45] <misty> not switzerland
[09:45] <lamfada> arise, Jackie O
[09:45] <Spartacus> misty: I can still be a texan!
[09:45] <misty> are you? :)
[09:45] <gauze> .ch != .se
[09:45] <lamfada> Johnathan Kennedy will rise and be shot down
[09:46] <lamfada> se == Sweden
[09:46] Action: misty uses the channel as RAM
[09:46] <misty> 368-379
[09:46] <Spartacus> gauze: Cant blame a whole state for an individuals death.
[09:46] <misty> ok, it can be written to permanent storage now :P
[09:46] <gauze> Spartacus: it's a song :/
[09:46] <lamfada> SEGFAULT
[09:46] <Spartacus> gauze: aha! 8)
[09:46] <misty> lol
[09:46] <Spartacus> lamfada: sn.umu.se != sweden. == texas
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[09:47] <lamfada> Spartacus: virtual texas ?
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[09:47] <Spartacus> lamfada: More like a mental sphere in my room.
[09:47] <misty> spartacus: what were those words you used before? I forgot them
[09:47] <misty> the 'totally currupt' ones
[09:47] <gauze> actually why can't you blame a whole state for an individuals death? people still blame the jews for Jesus, and the death of Jesus to Christians is a GOOD thing.
[09:47] <Spartacus> misty: vrickad? störd?
[09:47] <gauze> misty: corrupt
[09:47] <misty> ja :)
[09:48] <misty> vrickdad
[09:48] <misty> hehe
[09:48] <gauze> vrickdad?
[09:48] <Spartacus> gauze: Just becouse one group acts stupid doesn't mean you should to 8)
[09:48] <Spartacus> vrickad
[09:49] <misty> yeah yeah
[09:49] <gauze> what is vrickad?
[09:49] <misty> does it mean 'wicked'?
[09:49] <Spartacus> But störd is better to say. vrickad is a little put of fashion.
[09:49] <misty> gauze: totally corrupt :)
[09:49] <gauze> ah.
[09:49] <gauze> hm hm
[09:49] <Spartacus> gauze: Something like totally corrupt yes.
[09:49] <misty> Spartacus: it the o like an umlaut in german?
[09:49] Action: lamfada starts getting ready to go
[09:49] <misty> or a different sound?
[09:49] <misty> no lamfada, stay!
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[09:50] <misty> YAY
[09:50] <gauze> o with the unlats makes it like hm erp
[09:50] <misty> mrOpie came back! :)
[09:50] <lamfada> I am going to drop off an application for some office / studio space
[09:50] <Spartacus> misty: umlaut?
[09:50] <mrOpie> misty: connection died
[09:50] <gauze> ”
[09:50] <misty> Spartacus: yes, the uh.... .. over the o
[09:50] <Spartacus> misty: ö = o with two dots over.
[09:51] <misty> yes
[09:51] <misty> in german that is called umlaut
[09:51] <misty> what does it sound like in swedish?
[09:51] <Spartacus> misty: <misty> Spartacus: yes, the uh.... .. over the o = I am slow 8)
[09:51] <gauze> anyway I think ” makes it sound like 'er'
[09:51] <Spartacus> misty: In sweden it is just called ö 8)
[09:51] <misty> gauze: in german, yes
[09:51] <misty> but more like saying I with an O shape to your mouth
[09:51] <gauze> like in Jonk”ping
[09:52] <misty> also like the french U
[09:52] <gauze> I dunno french
[09:52] <gauze> I dunno ANY of these languages really
[09:52] <gauze> I just know how some words are said and stuff
[09:52] <gauze> like 'skit'
[09:52] <Spartacus> misty: You should get some swedish classes to sort all this out. You could prolly dominate since you know störd and vrickad and things like that.
[09:53] <gauze> I know a bunch of words you can't use for anything in svensk
[09:53] <misty> Spartacus: lol
[09:53] <gauze> like random words.
[09:54] <misty> stoerd and vrickad is all I need to know
[09:54] <Manny-> what is the demos/ dir ?
[09:54] <misty> ok I have to read
[09:54] <misty> bbl
[09:54] Nick change: misty -> misty_reading
[09:54] <Spartacus> misty_reading: totalt korrupt too!
[09:55] <skibum> how many of us are attending the meeting this evening?
[09:55] <gauze> I won't be here
[09:55] Nick change: lamfada -> lamfada_office_space
[09:55] <roguemtl> I will be attending
[09:55] Action: Leno_Work is gonna be there.
[09:55] <gauze> my gf doesn't like it when I IRC at night
[09:55] <lamfada_office_space> The meeting is 6:30 MST?
[09:55] <roguemtl> correct
[09:55] Action: Leno_Work makes a cracking whip noise :)
[09:55] <lamfada_office_space> thats 7:30 MST
[09:55] <gauze> Leno_Work: small price to pay :-)
[09:55] <lamfada_office_space> sorry, CST
[09:56] <Spartacus> skibum: I might be here. Depends on a lot of variables.
[09:56] <lamfada_office_space> probably not, I have to pick up my gf and then we have to eat (she works an overnight tonight)
[09:56] Action: Leno_Work kindof wonders why it was FRIDAY at 6:30, do they expect that we have _NO_ lives.
[09:56] <gauze> what's the word for "pussy whipped" in swedish?
[09:57] <Spartacus> gauze: Que?
[09:57] <gauze> hm.
[09:57] <gauze> now I have to explain pussy whipped. just forget it.
[09:58] <gauze> Sprackta Snut Skallar!
[09:58] <gauze> see I told you all the swedish I know is worthless
[09:58] <Leno_Work> Spartacus: whipped == your gf has total control.
[09:59] <Spartacus> gauze: Do you know what Sprackta Snut Skallar! means?
[09:59] <gauze> sparticus: Cracked Cop Skulls
[09:59] <Spartacus> Wow. He knew 8)
[10:00] <gauze> Fitta ar hjarntvatt.
[10:00] <skibum> gauze: tell here that there is an important meeting
[10:00] <skibum> :)
[10:00] <gauze> seriously I know a bunch of totally random words in swedish
[10:00] <Spartacus> gauze: There is no word for "pussy whipped" but if you have been whipped you are a "toffelhjälte"
[10:00] <gauze> I can make stupid little phrases that mean nothing
[10:01] <Spartacus> Oops. Friends on TV. cu
[10:01] <gauze> hah
[10:01] Nick change: Spartacus -> Spartacus_TV
[10:01] <gauze> u like Courtney Cocks
[10:02] <Spartacus_TV> gauze: Are you, like, toying with me? Using words below the waist and say that they are something else or something?
[10:02] Action: Spartacus_TV is away... for real (since: 07:02pm)
[10:03] <gauze> Spartacus_TV: hm no not really.
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[10:04] <e-t> fejj_school: make spruce be able to sign messages and I'll be super happy :)
[10:04] <gauze> I think fejj is at school.
[10:04] <e-t> i think so too
[10:04] <skibum> make it sort like mutt ;)
[10:04] <gauze> let's ask him.
[10:04] <e-t> but that is no excuse
[10:04] <gauze> fejj_school: are you at school?
[10:05] <e-t> hmm
[10:05] <gauze> I like pine.
[10:05] <e-t> maybe he went to the bathrom
[10:05] <e-t> bathroom
[10:05] <gauze> in an ecks-term
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[10:18] <Cheech> Sweet... Polka version of the Beatles Hey Jude :)
[10:20] Nick change: fejj_school -> fejj
[10:21] <fejj> hey luxie ;-)
[10:21] <fejj> 2 actually
[10:21] <fejj> effective speaking and differential equations
[10:21] <fejj> oh yes
[10:21] <fejj> well
[10:21] <fejj> iffy I guess
[10:21] <e-t> hey fejj
[10:22] <fejj> hey e-t :)
[10:22] <fejj> lux: I like math the besttho, cuz I like talking to this one hot chick in that class
[10:22] <e-t> fejj: just sent a post to the debian-devel list that a spruce package is available.. i put it on my shell on aspect.net
[10:22] <fejj> she's a cs major too ;-)
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[10:22] <fejj> but she doesn't use linux :(
[10:23] <fejj> e-t: thanks
[10:23] <e-t> fejj: there's no way to get it in before the freeze though :(
[10:23] <fejj> :(
[10:23] <fejj> that's ok
[10:24] <e-t> there's like tons of things in incoming that aren't getting in
[10:24] <e-t> oh well
[10:24] <fejj> asked her out once
[10:24] <e-t> does she use mac?
[10:24] <fejj> but she was busy with studying for an Oracle exam that weekend
[10:25] <e-t> cause that wouldn't be so bad i guess..
[10:25] <fejj> no, she uses WindowsNT
[10:25] <e-t> ooh
[10:25] <e-t> fejj: btw.. i love the new tree in spruce :)
[10:25] <fejj> so I dunno if she used Oracle as an excuse to be nice, or if that was really a valid reason
[10:27] <fejj> e-t: :)
[10:28] <e-t> how come linux software never has easter eggs?
[10:28] <fejj> heh
[10:28] <mrOpie> coz it's bloat
[10:28] <fejj> cuz that would be bloat ;-)
[10:28] <mrOpie> why won't debian install on my laptop? this is pathetic
[10:30] <e-t> mrOpie: wrong channel
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[10:30] <mrOpie> I'm complaining, not asking for help :P
[10:30] <fejj> heh
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[10:30] <usafman29> hello from ICeMan
[10:30] <e-t> mrOpie: for my next debian feat, i'm going to try to packagee CUPS
[10:31] <mrOpie> and have tomatoes tossed towards you? :)
[10:31] <e-t> us air force?
[10:31] <usafman29> can anyone try to ftp to ftp://nazark.myip.org
[10:31] <e-t> mrOpie: yay!
[10:31] Nick change: mrOpie -> mrOpie_shower
[10:31] Nick change: mrOpie_shower -> mrOpie_shOwer
[10:32] Nick change: usafman29 -> IceMan
[10:32] <IceMan> can anyone try to ftp to ftp://nazark.myip.org
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[10:32] <IceMan> pls need to know if my sys is on
[10:32] <Spock_washing_up> be back
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[10:33] <e-t> IceMan: it pings fine
[10:33] <e-t> ftp: connect: Connection refused
[10:33] <IceMan> e-t yea i know but try ftp
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[10:33] <IceMan> i am on aol wond allow
[10:33] Nick change: Spock -> Spock_washing_up
[10:34] <e-t> IceMan: that's cause you go through a firewall through them
[10:34] <IceMan> e-t hmm try telnet nazark.myip.org 25
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[10:34] <IceMan> yea stupid aol
[10:34] <McCoy> yo !!
[10:35] <IceMan> e-t did ya try
[10:37] <Spock_washing_up> yo McCoy
[10:38] <e-t> telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused
[10:41] Nick change: e-t -> et|lunch
[10:43] <IceMan> et|lunch hmm, probably DNS problem
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[10:44] <et|lunch> IceMan: not on my side
[10:46] <Spock_washing_up> brb, reboot
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[10:46] <gabe> WooHoo!
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[10:47] Action: gabe is going to start working in a building that has 384Gbits of bandwidth running into it tomorrow.
[10:47] <IceMan> et|lunch i ment on my box
[10:47] Action: gauze puts a goldstar on gabe's shirt
[10:47] <gauze> :-D
[10:48] <gabe> It's the same building e-trade started off in too actually, heh.
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[10:48] <roguemtl> re
[10:48] <gabe> hey Jakje
[10:48] <gabe> I got a job. :)
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[10:48] <gabe> AdvicePress.. they used to have CalderaPress in their office.
[10:49] <gabe> They're "interested" in Stampede too.
[10:49] <gabe> ;)
[10:49] Action: skibum is scared by people that are "interested" in stampede
[10:49] <gabe> Like they wouldn't terribly mind publishing a book+cd set for Stampede at some point in the future.
[10:50] <gabe> heh, to put it lightly that is
[10:50] <gabe> Well, I have work now. I'm happy.
[10:50] <gabe> I can make money fixing up their Linux systems.
[10:52] <skibum> Gabe: how do you rawrite a disk on the mac/
[10:52] Nick change: mrOpie_shOwer -> mrOpie_wOrk
[10:52] <gabe> uhh...
[10:52] <gabe> What are you wanting to write to a disk?
[10:53] <gabe> Cobalt's stock is worth $143/share?
[10:53] <gabe> jeeze
[10:53] <gabe> Can we say "Glamour Stock"?
[10:53] <skibum> a disk image
[10:53] <gabe> A disk image created by what program?
[10:53] <skibum> like something you'd dd in unix
[10:53] <gabe> What disk image?
[10:53] <skibum> dd if=bare.i of=/dev/fd0
[10:53] <skibum> a bootdisk image for a pc
[10:54] <gabe> You don't dd in MacOS, it can't access disks unless it knows the filesystem.
[10:54] <skibum> there's no way to write a raw disk?
[10:54] <gabe> Not that I know of.
[10:54] <gabe> There are pieces of shareware/commercial software that might be able to do something similar. But they usually have a proprietary format.
[10:55] <gabe> Try using DiskCopy first, you can find it on tucows. (allmacintosh.syracuse.net/macintosh.html I think)
[10:55] <skibum> thanks
[10:56] <skibum> Cool.
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[10:58] <Leno_Work> I think Stampede should IPO... sure we're a non-profit orginization, but I think that would be forgotten in the inter-net linux company buying frenzy. :)
[10:58] <gabe> hey Fejj...
[10:58] <skibum> Agreed.
[10:58] <fejj> hey
[10:58] Action: khemicals is back from the dead. Gone 12 hrs 39 min 35 secs
[10:58] <skibum> IPO and buy us all a mansion :)
[10:58] <gabe> How hard do you think it would be to implement a tree/thread structured mailbox viewer in Spruce?
[10:59] <khemicals> gabe: thank you for the info
[10:59] <skibum> go to kernel modules
[10:59] <fejj> gabe: probably very hard
[10:59] <skibum> and insert a module for your network card
[10:59] <gabe> Dave, no problem. Anything to fight the evil villain which is NT.
[10:59] <skibum> fejj: I request mailbox sorting like inmutt
[10:59] <fejj> mailbox sorting?
[11:00] <khemicals> gabe: if you would like a copy of what i wrote i will send it to you
[11:00] <gabe> fejj: *shrug* My boss was looking for a mailreader that acted like a nntp client. So he could delete entire threads of email with one click.
[11:00] <gabe> Dave, yeah sure. :)
[11:00] <khemicals> gabe@nospam.stampede.org?
[11:00] <fejj> gabe: that would make things very complicated for myself
[11:01] <ChakaX> jesus christ...
[11:01] <khemicals> gotcha :)
[11:01] <gabe> hehe
[11:01] <gabe> fejj: hrmph
[11:01] <gabe> Maybe in the future....
[11:01] Action: ChakaX wants etrade to hurry up and cash his check, before transmeta and valinux go public...
[11:02] Action: gabe needs to read up on HylaFAX so he can implement a fax server for the office.
[11:02] <khemicals> sent
[11:02] <gabe> Damn...
[11:02] <gabe> The VA people are getting such big heads about their IPO.
[11:02] <gabe> A lot of the employees are getting very arrogant.
[11:03] <gabe> Anyways...
[11:03] <gabe> I should be starting the PowerPC port of Stampede officially a week from monday.
[11:03] <gauze> f PPC , where is i386 0.90 final?!?!??!?
[11:03] <gauze> I mean cool Power PC
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[11:09] <skibum> fejjie: yeah, like mutt
[11:10] <skibum> fejjie: like:
[11:10] <skibum> like, my mailserver is slow
[11:10] <skibum> 3 + Nov 03 Mark Williams ( 0) GTE circuit
[11:10] <skibum> 4 r + Nov 03 Mark Williams ( 0) >
[11:10] <ChakaX> god damnit...
[11:10] <McCoy> seen dam ?
[11:10] <Yoda> dam was last seen on IRC 9 hours, 33 minutes and 20 seconds ago, saying: yo ho ho and a bottle of applejuice [Fri Nov 5 03:38:32 1999]
[11:10] <ChakaX> I'm so pissed I missed that ipo...
[11:10] <gabe> gauze: watchoo talkin bout ??! i386?!?! WTF?
[11:11] <gauze> gabe: uh I meant sun3
[11:11] <fejj> skibum: you can sort the mail in the mailboxes
[11:11] <gabe> i586, i686, Alpha, PPC
[11:11] <fejj> is that what you mean?
[11:11] <gauze> gabe: it'll run on i386 though, lowest common denominator :-)
[11:12] <gauze> unless the FAQ lies
[11:12] <gauze> I never tried Stamp on a 386
[11:12] <Zolan> What version is stampede up to now?
[11:12] <gabe> Uhmm... it *might* run ok on a 386
[11:12] <gauze> 0.89 + pre-0.90
[11:13] <gabe> I have run it on a 486 will no problems.
[11:13] <ChakaX> gabe, your hardcore :D
[11:13] <Zolan> Hehehehe, are they gonna pull a slack and jump to 7? =)
[11:13] <gauze> Stampede 2000 is coming out in 3 months
[11:13] <ChakaX> haha
[11:14] <gauze> Solaris 2.6->7 jump is also impressive :-)
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[11:15] <gabe> Reminds me of the whole Word/WordPerfect thing.
[11:15] <gauze> SunOS 5.6->5.7 is consistent though.
[11:15] <gabe> uhm
[11:15] <gauze> Wird jumped from 6 to 95 didn't it ;)
[11:15] <gauze> uh Word
[11:15] <gabe> SunOS 5.6 == Solaris 2.6 doesn't it?
[11:15] <gauze> yes
[11:15] <gauze> but Solaris 2.7 is called Solaris 7
[11:16] <gauze> BUT
[11:16] <gabe> Word jumped from like 3 or 4 to 6 when WordPerfect 6.something was released.
[11:16] <gauze> it's also called SunOS 5.7
[11:16] <gabe> *shrug*
[11:16] <gauze> gabe: ah I didn't know that.
[11:16] <gauze> I never had word
[11:17] <skibum> fejjie: no, like, it sorts threads
[11:17] <gabe> The company I'm gonna be working at is going to be getting rid of a bunch of stuff, including maybe a Sun 10, and I get first pick before it's all put on eBay or something, hehe.
[11:17] <skibum> 3 + Nov 03 Mark Williams ( 0) GTE circuit
[11:17] <skibum> 4 r + Nov 03 Mark Williams ( 0) >
[11:17] <skibum> 5 Nov 03 Andrell Panconi ( 0) Mark Your Calendars...
[11:17] <skibum> 6 Nov 04 Daniel Conder ( 0) >
[11:17] <gauze> gabe: cool!
[11:17] <gabe> Matt, yeah, that's what my boss wanted.
[11:17] <gabe> What program does that?
[11:17] <skibum> mutt
[11:17] <gabe> I'll have to tell him tomorrow.
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[11:18] <gauze> wtf!>!!>
[11:18] <gauze> altavista is using that ask jeezes crap now?
[11:18] <gauze> jeeves
[11:18] <fejj> skibum: I dunno how to do that :\
[11:18] <Beginner> Hi I need help, i couldnt run JDK under Redhat
[11:19] <gauze> hm
[11:19] <gabe> Beginner: #LinuxHelp
[11:19] <gauze> this isn't #java or #redhat. and I don't know what to tell you besides that
[11:19] <gauze> get the right lib version
[11:19] <gauze> that's it.
[11:19] <gauze> if it doesn't work give up.
[11:20] <gabe> We wear cowboy hats and ride horses with attitudes.
[11:20] <fejj> haha
[11:20] <lamfada_office_space> the horses, not us
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[11:20] <gabe> Our horses hate the color red.
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[11:20] <gauze> our horses ride hats
[11:21] <gauze> you know
[11:22] <gauze> having a scsi card with the number 2000 in it is bringing up WAY too many 'y2k' related searches
[11:22] <gauze> I'm searching by model number you see :/
[11:23] <skibum> fejjie: I can help you with pseudo code :P
[11:23] <fejj> haha
[11:24] Action: fejj thinks skibum is drifting slowly into Marketing Dept...
[11:24] Nick change: et|homework -> e-t
[11:24] <fejj> skibum == Steff?
[11:24] <fejj> ;-)
[11:25] <e-t> gauze: what you looking for?
[11:25] <skibum> I could give you real code too, just take me longer to get around to hit :P
[11:25] <fejj> heh
[11:25] <gabe> I need food.
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[11:27] <e-t> hrmm
[11:28] <e-t> have you guys packaged CUPS for stampede?
[11:28] <e-t> it looks like it is going to be complicated to package
[11:29] <e-t> hmm.. maybe not
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[11:31] <Grexo> hello
[11:31] <Yoda> hello, Grexo
[11:31] <Grexo> Stampede hasnt been modified in a month. Whats going on?
[11:31] <Grexo> The logs show stampede distro last modified on sept 27th
[11:31] <Grexo> did stampede stabalize?
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[11:32] Nick change: misty_reading -> misty
[11:32] <Grexo> hi discobob
[11:32] <discobob> yo
[11:33] <misty> hmm
[11:33] <McCoy> yo misty !!
[11:33] <McCoy> hmm ?
[11:33] <gauze> later
[11:33] <misty> yeah
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[11:33] <misty> greusse, mccoy :)
[11:33] <McCoy> gruesse :)
[11:33] <Grexo> did Stampede stabilize?
[11:33] <Grexo> It was last modified on sept 27th
[11:34] <misty> wie geht's?
[11:34] <McCoy> mir geht's ganz gut
[11:34] <McCoy> und dir ?
[11:34] <misty> nur ganz? :)
[11:34] <McCoy> naja, wegen gestern...
[11:34] <misty> ich bin muede, und habe krampfen (spock taught me how to say it :) aber es geht ok :)
[11:35] <lamfada> Grexo: the stampede linux developers are currently focusing on the pre-0.90 tree
[11:35] <McCoy> kraempfe, ah
[11:35] <Grexo> sprechen english?
[11:35] <Grexo> heh
[11:35] <misty> Grexo :)
[11:35] <Grexo> thanks lamfada ;-)
[11:35] <misty> what's up?
[11:35] <misty> lamfada
[11:35] <lamfada> kein problem
[11:35] <lamfada> Tag, alle
[11:35] <McCoy> machen wir den channel deutsch ?
[11:35] <Grexo> lamfada: I see.
[11:35] <lamfada> #stampede_deutsch
[11:36] Action: Grexo asks if he should join #stampede_english ;-)
[11:36] <lamfada> #stampede_multilingual
[11:36] <McCoy> :)
[11:37] <lamfada> we just seem to have a lot of english and german speakers here :)
[11:37] <Grexo> stampede must be big in germany
[11:37] <Leno_Work> english, german, and swedish
[11:37] <McCoy> looks like
[11:37] <misty> no actually lamfada and I are both american
[11:37] <misty> but we speak passable german :)
[11:38] <lamfada> ein bischen
[11:38] <misty> and I at least like to practice on the poor victims in here hehe
[11:38] <McCoy> :)
[11:38] <Grexo> heh
[11:38] <lamfada> yeah, swedes, too
[11:38] <McCoy> ich kann deutsch am besten !!
[11:38] <misty> hehe
[11:38] <misty> especially swedes
[11:38] <Grexo> Tonight Microsoft's verdict comes out! (YAY!)
[11:38] <lamfada> but they mostly stick with english
[11:38] <Grexo> Microsoft is going to go downhill tonight ;-)
[11:38] <misty> why?
[11:38] <lamfada> Micorsfot is irrelevant
[11:39] <e-t> their verdict is coming tonight?
[11:39] <e-t> wow
[11:39] <e-t> i don't think anything drastic will happen :P
[11:39] <misty> lol
[11:39] <lamfada> from the page:
[11:39] <lamfada> This release will occur at 6:30 pm (eastern time)
[11:39] <lamfada> on an undesignated Friday, likely between now and the end of November.
[11:39] <misty> everyone hates them anyway
[11:40] <lamfada> well, its not like "everybody" is going to rush out and get Win2k
[11:40] <lamfada> or Win3k, at this rate
[11:40] <roguemtl> My guess is that Microsoft stock will go up, not down, as result of the upcoming judgement
[11:41] <lamfada> yeah, esp. if it gets broken up
[11:41] <roguemtl> I can't imagine how it could possibly be severe enough that they would take a stock hit
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[11:41] <Spock> Yo
[11:41] <roguemtl> and people will see this as a 'stable' thing... that they're putting this behind them
[11:41] <roguemtl> Spock: coming to the meeting tonight?
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[11:41] <lamfada> well, it is overvalued
[11:41] <Spock> roguemtl: Yup, I have beer, so I can come ...
[11:42] <lamfada> but they still have the Corel suit
[11:42] <Spock> ;P
[11:42] <lamfada> Spock: Ich will ein Paulaner Dunkeles Hefe ...
[11:42] <Spock> roguemtl: What about SLAB, Mino said you'll cahnge it ? Is that right ? Will that be discussed that night ?
[11:43] <Spock> lamfada: I only have Radeberger Pilsener ... and Gluehwein :)
[11:43] <lamfada> schade
[11:43] <lamfada> :)
[11:43] <Spock> lamfada: Wieso ? Radeberger ist _das_ Bier !
[11:44] <lamfada> Ich mag Hefe ganz gern
[11:44] <Spock> lamfada: Ja, ich auch, aber das zeiht immer so rein ....
[11:44] <Spock> s/teiht/zieht
[11:44] <lamfada> Ich hasse Ami Bier ...
[11:45] <Spock> lamfada: Right, ich auch, ich habe mal Miller probiert ... ich musste fast kotzen
[11:45] <roguemtl> Spock: The current state of SLAB is on the agenda for tonight's meeting.
[11:45] <Spock> roguemtl: OK, I'll be there ;)
[11:45] <lamfada> roguemtl: is the agenda posted anywhere ?
[11:46] <Spock> OK, still have to wash up ... :(
[11:46] Nick change: Spock -> Spock_washing_up
[11:47] <roguemtl> lamfada: Have to check with skibum. If there are things you want added to the agenda, make sure you let skibum know :)
[11:48] <lamfada> thx
[11:48] Action: skibum is gone: lunch [Rec|ON]
[11:48] <skibum> email me re: meeting
[11:48] <lamfada> ok
[11:48] <roguemtl> (skibum@stampede.org)
[11:48] <lamfada> yep
[11:55] Action: roguemtl will bbl +~ 2h
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[11:56] <lamfada> Yoda: seen Leno_Work
[11:56] <Yoda> Leno_Work was last seen on IRC 18 minutes and 32 seconds ago, saying: english, german, and swedish [Fri Nov 5 13:38:51 1999]
[12:00] <e-t> fejj: i believe it is time to put some sort of status on messages.. i do not like hunting through all of my folders to find new messages..
[12:04] <lamfada> gotta run errands, bbs
[12:05] <fejj> already added that
[12:05] <e-t> fejj: cvs?
[12:05] <fejj> you need to set the fonts tho in Apearances
[12:05] <fejj> no, 0.5.8
[12:05] <e-t> oh
[12:05] <e-t> yippie
[12:05] <fejj> :)
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[12:06] <e-t> now how about folders?
[12:07] <fejj> I got a patch for that
[12:07] <fejj> but it was for 0.5.7
[12:08] <fejj> and it won't be easy to commit
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[12:10] <e-t> hmm.. my mem is getting up there..
[12:13] <slatribat> I have been asking this before but... has anyone been putting together a ppp-2.3.10.slp or similar?
[12:15] <e-t> wow.. that was spruce
[12:16] <e-t> spruce does NOT like my inbox
[12:16] <slatribat> hum.. I acidently deleted my whole spruce Inbox today... I feel great ;)
[12:17] <e-t> wee
[12:18] <Spock_washing_up> slatribat: No not yet ...
[12:18] <slatribat> Spock_washing_up: about the ppp ? :)
[12:18] <e-t> is slatribat supposed to be slartibartfast?
[12:18] <slatribat> hehe
[12:19] <slatribat> slatribat is far easier to type :)
[12:19] <e-t> or whatever that guy's name was?
[12:19] <slatribat> he who made Norway :)
[12:19] <e-t> yes :)
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[12:20] <Spock_washing_up> slatribat: Yeah, about pppp
[12:20] <Spock_washing_up> ups
[12:20] <Spock_washing_up> ppp
[12:20] <slatribat> ok, thanks
[12:21] <slatribat> it´s a pitty that I can´t seem to get the tarball correctly installed..
[12:23] Nick change: e-t -> et|reading|napping
[12:23] <Leno_Work> seen minotaur
[12:23] <Yoda> minotaur was last seen on IRC 2 hours, 55 minutes and 22 seconds ago, saying: Nah, my packages are binary only. [Fri Nov 5 11:29:36 1999]
[12:23] <khemicals> weather khao
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[12:24] <misty> hrmph
[12:24] <misty> stupid peer
[12:24] <Spock_washing_up> misty: He
[12:24] <McCoy> :)
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[12:30] <misty> hi slug
[12:30] <slug> hi misty
[12:31] <Spock_washing_up> Hey slug
[12:32] <slug> sounds like I am busted how can i help you to-day?
[12:33] <misty> huh?
[12:33] <misty> Spock_washing_up how long does it take you to wash up???
[12:34] <Spock_washing_up> misty: Hmm I'm not ready yet ... I only pause because my hands are fully wetted (is this correct ?)
[12:36] Action: lux has returned... [atl]
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[12:38] <Yoda> I haven't seen 'skikbum', lux
[12:38] <Yoda> skibum was last seen on IRC 50 minutes and 4 seconds ago, saying: email me re: meeting [Fri Nov 5 13:49:31 1999]
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[12:40] <Leno_Work> Spock_washing_up: "because my hands are wet" would be more approiate.
[12:41] <Spock_washing_up> Leno_Work: NO, that's not what I mean
[12:41] <Spock_washing_up> Leno_Work: I mean they are fully soaked
[12:41] <Spock_washing_up> lux: Yup
[12:41] <Spock_washing_up> That's what I meant
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[12:41] <Spock_washing_up> yo needo
[12:42] <needo> Hey guys
[12:42] <needo> heya
[12:42] Action: needo just got finished moving
[12:42] <Spock_washing_up> needo: sup w/ your cam ?
[12:42] Nick change: tybollt -> blair_witch_tybollt
[12:42] <needo> Its not working right now.
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[12:43] <Spock_washing_up> :(
[12:43] <needo> lux: Another room in the house. Cheryl just had major back surgery so Im moving in to another room because she cant go up and down the stairs.
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[12:45] <needo> I didnt have a choice.
[12:45] <Spock_washing_up> ;P
[12:45] <needo> But I would've done it anyway.
[12:46] <Spock_washing_up> *hungry*
[12:49] Nick change: blair_witch_tybollt -> tybollt_Toronto_maple_leafs_fa
[12:49] <tybollt_Toronto_maple_leafs_fa> ;)
[12:49] Nick change: tybollt_Toronto_maple_leafs_fa -> tybollt
[12:49] <needo> Cheryl's daughter said she would stick around while her mother was recuperating but she moved out behind everyones back
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[12:58] <tybollt> hehe
[12:58] <tybollt> nap time's up =)
[12:58] <Grexo> microsoft verdict is due soon!
[12:58] <Grexo> ;-)
[12:58] <tybollt> 's like a fucking siest over in the states huh?
[12:59] Action: Grexo turns up court TV for the verdict which will be occuring soon
[12:59] <tybollt> grexo_ What verdict?
[13:00] <tybollt> grexo: The OJ verdict again and again and again? ;(
[13:00] <tybollt> ;)
[13:00] <Grexo> microsoft verdict
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[13:00] <Grexo> not OJ
[13:00] <Grexo> ;-)
[13:00] <Grexo> The BIG MS Anti-trust suit!
[13:01] <Grexo> The people who us Linux'ers think are the bad guys.
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[13:01] <tybollt> bonjour Rhiannon
[13:02] Nick change: Grexo -> Powerline
[13:02] Nick change: Powerline -> Powergrid
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[13:03] <tybollt> grexo: Is that TODAY?
[13:03] Nick change: Powergrid -> grexo
[13:03] <tybollt> gfrexo: Duh! Reading slashdot now ?=
[13:03] <tybollt> =)
[13:03] <Fo_Gish> yoda: Gad?
[13:03] <Yoda> Gad is a band; a troop
[13:03] <Fo_Gish> yoda: Asher?
[13:03] <Yoda> i heard Asher was happiness
[13:04] <Fo_Gish> hmmm hes on dugs again
[13:04] <Fo_Gish> drugs even
[13:04] <grexo> tybollt: Yes its on slashdot
[13:04] <grexo> ;-)
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[13:04] <grexo> it got mentioned
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[13:09] <Fo_Gish> ugggh
[13:10] <Epitaph> Hey guy.
[13:11] <Spock_washing_up> Yoda: Black Sabbath ?
[13:11] <Yoda> i don't know, spock_washing_up
[13:11] <Spock_washing_up> Yoda: Black Sabbath is the greatest metal band of the world !
[13:11] <Spock_washing_up> Yoda: Black Sabbath ?
[13:11] <Yoda> i guess Black Sabbath is the greatest metal band of the world !
[13:12] <Spock_washing_up> Yaeah that's right now
[13:13] <Spock_washing_up> Yoda: Manowar ?
[13:13] <Yoda> spock_washing_up: wish i knew
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[13:13] <Spock_washing_up> Yoda: Manowar kick ass
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[13:13] <Spock_washing_up> Yoda: Manowar ?
[13:13] <Yoda> spock_washing_up: no idea
[13:13] <Spock_washing_up> Yoda: Manowar are kickin' ass
[13:13] <Spock_washing_up> Yoda: Manowar ?
[13:13] <Yoda> Manowar are kickin' ass
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[13:16] <Spock_washing_up> brb, wash up again
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[13:19] <gabe> hmm...
[13:19] <gabe> anyone played with LKCD yet?
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[13:21] <needo> fejj
[13:22] <Brax> GO ON BAN ME IDOTIC F00L
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[13:22] <lamfada> whatta moron
[13:22] <Spock_washing_up> lux: WTH YOU ARE DOIN HERE ?
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[13:23] <Spock_washing_up> Why did you wanna ban Brax ?
[13:23] <Spock_washing_up> What the hell did he wrong ?
[13:24] <lamfada> well, calling lux an IDIOTIC FOOL was not the brightest of ideas :)
[13:25] <Spock_washing_up> lux: THX for your answer ... it helped me a lot
[13:25] <Spock_washing_up> lamfada: He said the after she wanted to ban him ...
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[13:25] <lamfada> Spock_washing_up: I know that, but asking "why" is probably a less --- umm --- antagonistic thing to do
[13:26] <Fo_Gish> hi
[13:26] <Fo_Gish> great
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[13:27] <DraX> hey lux.
[13:27] <DraX> Rhiannon: hey
[13:27] <Fo_Gish> yes and no
[13:27] <misty_nap> Drax :)
[13:27] <DraX> anyone ever set yp Exim.
[13:27] <DraX> hey misty
[13:28] <Spock_washing_up> lamfada: You mean it's antagonistic asking lux why she wanted to ban someone ?
[13:29] Nick change: misty_nap -> misty
[13:29] <misty> drax: it's much nicer sometiems when you are on /ignore
[13:29] <misty> :P
[13:29] <Spock_washing_up> Oh, yeah, the indisputable lux, I'm so sorry for asking her something, bah
[13:29] <khemicals> drax i have
[13:30] <DraX> khemicals: mind helping me out?
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[13:30] <khemicals> what is the problem?
[13:30] <misty> oooh, the log
[13:30] <khemicals> i have limited experience with it
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[13:30] <misty> we have God in the channel, folks
[13:31] <misty> everyone get out the rosary
[13:31] <Spock_washing_up> Yeah seems so
[13:31] <DraX> khemicals: i can't find out how to get it to start
[13:31] <misty> her royal bitchiness is in our presence
[13:31] <Spock_washing_up> LOL
[13:31] <Spock_washing_up> RIGHT
[13:31] <khemicals> DraX: did you make the symlinks that the docs talk about?
[13:32] <khemicals> DraX: what ip is this machien you are setting it up on?
[13:32] <khemicals> /msg it to me if you want
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[13:33] <khemicals> DraX: the docs aren't useless... they aren't that helpful but they aren't useless :)
[13:34] <khemicals> you have sendmail running, why do you want to switch to something else
[13:34] <DraX> cause i can root that version of sendmail
[13:34] <khemicals> gotcha :)
[13:34] <khemicals> let me figure somethin out... hold up a sec
[13:35] <khemicals> mv /usr/sbin/sendmail /sendmail.old
[13:36] <DraX> /sendmail.old?
[13:37] <misty> prolly /usr/sbin/sendmail.old
[13:37] <khemicals> ack/usr/sbin/sendmail.old
[13:37] <misty> :)
[13:37] <khemicals> sorry :)
[13:37] <DraX> thats what i thought
[13:37] <khemicals> ln -s /blah/eximexicutable /usr/sbin/sendmail
[13:38] <DraX> done
[13:38] <khemicals> send inetd the HUP signal
[13:38] <khemicals> and you should be set
[13:38] <DraX> inetd?
[13:38] <khemicals> (i assume you run sendmail from inetd)
[13:38] <DraX> what
[13:38] <DraX> nooo
[13:39] <khemicals> how do you run it then
[13:39] <DraX> exim needs to be standalone
[13:39] <DraX> standalone
[13:39] <khemicals> sendmail -bd
[13:39] <khemicals> that will do exim for you in daemon mode
[13:39] <khemicals> but you will need to kill the sendmail process first
[13:40] <DraX> done
[13:40] <DraX> awesome
[13:41] <DraX> and i setup pop3 the other day
[13:41] <khemicals> ack, you have telnet running on that server
[13:41] <DraX> fully aware of that
[13:41] <Fo_Gish> welp gotta go
[13:41] <DraX> khemicals: the box won't compile ssh
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[13:42] <DraX> the cpu is defective
[13:42] <DraX> i get sig 11's
[13:42] <DraX> same with kernel
[13:42] <DraX> i have to do the kernel in strides
[13:42] <khemicals> why not just use the slp
[13:42] <DraX> slackware box
[13:42] <khemicals> libc5?
[13:42] <DraX> yup
[13:42] <DraX> i have stampede downloaded on it
[13:42] <khemicals> are there any old rpm's for it?
[13:43] <DraX> i have all the old packages
[13:43] <DraX> but it dosen't include ssh
[13:43] <khemicals> right, but there certainly is a libc5 binary of rpm
[13:43] <khemicals> and then there probably is a libc5 rpm of ssh
[13:43] <DraX> i'll just keep trying to get it to compile
[13:44] <DraX> the box already got hacked into
[13:44] <DraX> i had to take debug tools to the drive
[13:44] <DraX> to get rid of the backdoored login bin
[13:44] <khemicals> or can you install slck on another machien temporarily and compile on it
[13:45] <khemicals> ack, ignore typos :)
[13:45] <misty> what's matt's email?
[13:45] <DraX> thats a good idea
[13:45] <khemicals> skibum@stampede.org
[13:45] <misty> thanks
[13:45] <DraX> i'll get my sshd binary thats on my home computer
[13:45] <khemicals> DraX: mind if i run a portsniffer on it?
[13:45] <DraX> might as well
[13:46] <DraX> the funny part is i've secured it up so much more then when i got to it
[13:46] <khemicals> you should up the kernel to 2.2.13
[13:47] <DraX> it took me 1 year to get the kernel compiled and working
[13:47] <DraX> i don't even make clean any more
[13:47] <DraX> when i need to add new stuff
[13:47] <DraX> mind msging me that port scan?
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[13:48] <mick> Tag.
[13:48] <khemicals> i will when it is done
[13:48] <DraX> ok
[13:49] <khemicals> what CPU is on the machine?
[13:49] <DraX> amd k6-2 233
[13:49] <DraX> we were planning to up it to a 350
[13:49] <khemicals> can't you get anohter good one for like $10
[13:49] <DraX> khemicals: the box is school board property, falling into school board budget
[13:50] <DraX> and we spent about $300 of our budget on more ram
[13:50] <DraX> i was told we had about $500
[13:50] <khemicals> DraX: i understand... how much ram is on it... i work for a school so i do know how that stuff works
[13:51] <DraX> it has 384 megs
[13:52] <khemicals> what do you do on that box...
[13:52] Action: khemicals is fighting with some people in the school over the nt vs linux issue
[13:52] <DraX> web server, 500+ hits weekly
[13:52] <khemicals> 500 hits a week is not that many
[13:53] <DraX> + is the key
[13:53] <khemicals> gotcha
[13:53] <DraX> i've actully seen 2000 hits in a week
[13:53] <DraX> and i've seen as low as 400 hits
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[13:56] <discobob_> yo
[13:57] <misty> can you do bcc in pine?
[13:57] <khemicals> yes
[13:57] <khemicals> ctrl+r
[13:57] <misty> thanks
[13:58] <misty> Spock, lamfada, what are your emails?
[13:58] <misty> and what's leno's and fo-gish's?
[13:58] <lamfada> lamfada@lugh.net
[13:58] <khemicals> rawb@DONTSPAMHIM.xmission.com
[13:59] <misty> shold I take the dontspam out? ;)
[13:59] <khemicals> no :)
[14:00] <misty> how bout joyce?
[14:00] <joyce> well, joyce@brickwall.org, when it works =)
[14:00] <Spock_washing_up> misty: spock@mgnet.de
[14:00] <joyce> use joyce@xmission.com for now.
[14:00] <misty> thanks joyce
[14:00] <joyce> np
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[14:01] <misty> anybody else wanna see a pissy email?
[14:01] <khemicals> from?
[14:01] <lamfada> lol
[14:01] <misty> from me
[14:01] <khemicals> about?
[14:01] <misty> I'd rather not say
[14:01] <misty> :)
[14:02] <khemicals> guess not if you won't give me a primer first
[14:02] <misty> kay
[14:02] Action: fejj commit's cvs
[14:03] <misty> fejjiebaby
[14:03] <misty> what's your email?
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[14:03] <fejj> fejj@stampede.org
[14:03] <misty> k
[14:03] <needo> misty: needo@superhero.org
[14:04] <misty> thanks needo
[14:04] <fejj> :)
[14:04] Action: khemicals reminds people that all these addresses are stored on the logs and thus show up on the web page
[14:04] <needo> fejj: whats been updated in Spruce?
[14:04] <Spock_washing_up> khemicals: And ? You dan't have a spam filter ?
[14:04] <misty> it's sent
[14:04] <Spock_washing_up> Yaeh
[14:04] <fejj> a bug in accounts dialog
[14:04] <khemicals> Spock_washing_up: i tend to not need one due to how i use my addresses
[14:05] <khemicals> and i like to keep it that way :)
[14:06] <lamfada> heh, I need to change my whois records to a different mailbox
[14:06] <lamfada> Most of my spam comes from them / people who abuse them
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[14:07] <fejj> needo: also added Danish support (nott hat you should care)
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[14:07] <DraX> god
[14:08] <misty> eh?
[14:09] <DraX> misty: got disconnected
[14:09] <DraX> brb
[14:10] <Spock_washing_up> Yeah, for sure she'll do that
[14:10] <lamfada> yeah, I believe that
[14:10] <Spock_washing_up> That damn bitch
[14:10] <Spock_washing_up> ROFL
[14:10] <discobob> discobob@stampede.org has thus far been imune to spam...
[14:10] <discobob> well, non stampede spam anyway...
[14:10] Action: McCoy is misty's first spam victim.
[14:11] <misty> lol
[14:12] <Spock_washing_up> Die , die die my darling, we're gonna meet in hee-el
[14:12] <Spock_washing_up> (metallica)
[14:13] <misty> no lux, only yours
[14:13] <mick> bbl. chow.
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[14:13] <lamfada> I'll have spam, spam, spam, spam, spam, spam, spam, spam, spam, baked beans, and spam
[14:14] <DraX> yuck
[14:14] Action: needo needs to talk to his advisor about why he cant sign up for this math course.
[14:15] <Spock_washing_up> needo: fight
[14:15] <Spock_washing_up> needo: for your right
[14:15] <needo> to do math?
[14:15] <Spock_washing_up> Yeah
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[14:18] Nick change: lux_ -> lux
[14:18] <DraX> BAD bitch
[14:18] <DraX> no friends
[14:18] <misty> lol
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[14:19] <misty> drax, hush
[14:19] <Spock_washing_up> hi rogue
[14:19] <DraX> misty: sorry
[14:20] <tybollt> hey ho
[14:22] #stampede: mode change '+o mrOpie_wOrk' by fejj!null@216-164-251-39.s293.tnt3.atn.pa.dialup.rcn.com
[14:23] <Spock_washing_up> fejj the op bot
[14:23] <fejj> heh
[14:23] <fejj> yup
[14:24] <HappyDed> oh! Devel meeting today!
[14:24] Action: fejj can't seem to unsibscribe to linux-kernel mailing list...I've sent em an email from every one of my addy's to unsubscribe and I keep getting dumped on :\
[14:24] <HappyDed> what time is it in CST?
[14:24] <HappyDed> aww... that sucks
[14:24] <HappyDed> dinner hour
[14:25] <HappyDed> actually, we might eat later than that
[14:26] <Spock_washing_up> fejj: Look at the header, It'll tell you how you subscribed
[14:27] <fejj> ugh
[14:27] <fejj> too late
[14:27] <fejj> I already echo -n > kernel.mbx
[14:27] <fejj> :\
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[14:28] <grexo> microsoft verdict watch
[14:28] <grexo> ;-)
[14:28] <grexo> Microsoft will topple like the wind
[14:28] <Spock_washing_up> fejj: But in every message you get your recv addy is included
[14:29] Nick change: tybollt -> tybollt_0
[14:29] Nick change: tybollt_0 -> tybollt_0_90
[14:29] <fejj> ah yes
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[14:29] <fejj> I finally sent it from the right addy
[14:29] <Spock_washing_up> fejj: There ya go
[14:29] <fejj> xtort@lito.aspect.net
[14:29] <fejj> !
[14:29] Action: fejj has too may email addy's
[14:30] <Spock_washing_up> He me too
[14:30] <misty> fejj, did you get the email?
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[14:30] <fejj> I got 1 at netnerd.net, e-ther.net, xtorshun.org, erols.com, stampede.org, aspect.net, etc
[14:30] <misty> haha
[14:30] <misty> I just sent to stampede.org :)
[14:30] <fejj> and used to have one at xt0rshun.org
[14:31] <lamfada> fejj: .forward
[14:31] <Spock_washing_up> fejj: .qmail- files :P
[14:31] <fejj> but that company rm -rf'd me from their server :(
[14:31] <fejj> .forward?
[14:31] <iv> xt0rshun.org.. thats ran by xp0rnstar
[14:32] <iv> (sil)
[14:32] <fejj> no
[14:32] <iv> anyways
[14:32] <fejj> it was run by my x-g/f
[14:32] <iv> hmm......
[14:32] <iv> vetes?
[14:32] <fejj> who's vetes?
[14:32] <iv> n/m
[14:32] <fejj> she went by faith
[14:33] <iv> now, how to change the msg when people log on to my ftp server?
[14:33] <fejj> modify /etc/issue
[14:33] <iv> h..
[14:33] <fejj> or /etc/motd
[14:33] <fejj> motd shows up after they log in
[14:33] <fejj> issue shows up before the prompt
[14:34] <iv> and what for the logout message?
[14:34] <fejj> actually, from network logins, you want to edit /etc/issue.net
[14:34] <fejj> iv: edit their ~/.logout file
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[14:35] <fejj> freakin hell
[14:35] <fejj> my licq was killing my cpus
[14:35] Action: fejj was afraid it was a bug in spruce :\
[14:35] <iv> thx
[14:35] <fejj> heh
[14:35] <fejj> np
[14:35] <fejj> iv
[14:35] <iv> i have licq, micq is cool
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[14:35] <iv> not micq
[14:35] <fejj> http://www.xtorshun.org
[14:36] <skibum> yo
[14:36] <iv> i mean zicq
[14:36] <fejj> it's the new site
[14:36] <fejj> yo skibum ;-)
[14:36] <Spock_washing_up> hi ski
[14:36] Nick change: Spock_washing_up -> Spock
[14:36] <fejj> iv: you run stampede?
[14:37] <skibum> Leave here?
[14:37] <skibum> hi spock
[14:37] Action: fejj is surprised anyone cept me and my x-g/f even knew about xt0rshun.org
[14:39] <iv> ( fejj ) - nope
[14:39] <McCoy> brb
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[14:39] <fejj> iv: slack?
[14:39] <tybollt_0_90> fejj: xt0r? Heh, is that the latest in w4r3z and kiddie pr0n distribution? ;-P
[14:39] <iv> yeh
[14:39] <iv> i wanted to try slack7
[14:39] Action: tybollt_0_90 ducks
[14:39] <fejj> tybollt_0_90: haha
[14:39] <fejj> tybollt_0_90: heh, well - lets put it this way
[14:40] <tybollt_0_90> No offense, just that xt0r, sounds sort of well... you get it =)
[14:40] <fejj> the guy who regged it for my x-g/f goes by xp0rnstar
[14:40] <fejj> I guess he feels the need to add 0's where O's should be
[14:40] <tybollt_0_90> so about T minus 1 hour and twenty minutes
[14:41] <tybollt_0_90> fejj Ok =)
[14:41] Nick change: iv -> iv-awy
[14:41] <tybollt_0_90> EST == x MST?
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[14:41] <tybollt_0_90> Oh and btw, have you guys seen this one? http://www.solace.mh.se/~tybollt/christmas_tux.png
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[14:43] <skibum> What's up spock?
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[14:44] <Spock> skibum: Got E compiled right now !!!!!!!!! It rules !
[14:44] <HappyDed> skibum: will I ever get to give you my source code? =)
[14:45] <HappyDed> E rocks
[14:45] <fejj> yo sublime
[14:45] <sublime> hey fejj
[14:45] <HappyDed> but it's WAY too slow for my tastes
[14:45] <sublime> any news on spruce?
[14:45] <fejj> sup fool?
[14:45] <sublime> not much dog
[14:45] <fejj> heh
[14:45] Nick change: iv-awy -> iv
[14:45] <fejj> yea, got imap workin
[14:45] <skibum> Spock: cool!
[14:45] <skibum> HappyDed: yeah!
[14:45] <sublime> mmmm imap.
[14:45] <fejj> pgp is on it's way
[14:45] <Spock> skibum: Yeah, 0.16.1
[14:45] <sublime> good
[14:45] <sublime> when you have pgp AND threads
[14:45] <sublime> you will be the pimp.
[14:45] <roguemtl> gpg?
[14:45] <sublime> pgp.
[14:45] <sublime> :P
[14:45] <Spock> skibum: That was the first thing on the way to 0.90 E
[14:45] <skibum> gpg too
[14:46] <fejj> roguemtl: yes, and gpg
[14:46] <fejj> I'm supporting both pgp and gpg
[14:46] <roguemtl> rock! :)
[14:46] <skibum> Spock :)
[14:46] <sublime> Actually
[14:46] <fejj> sublime: I freed up that problem with it locking up
[14:46] <sublime> if spruce supports gpg well, and gpg is compatible with pgp keys, I'll use it.
[14:46] <HappyDed> skibum: you gonna be home during the devel meeting?
[14:48] Action: fejj cries cuz he's home with no woman on a friday night
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[14:48] <skibum> HappyDed: yah!
[14:48] <fejj> angela rejected me :(
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[14:49] <fejj> heh, actually she's gonna be in NYC this weekend
[14:49] <sublime> What happened between you and mel?
[14:49] <fejj> <-- too much codin', not enough lovin'
[14:49] <fejj> that's my guess
[14:49] <sublime> ah, had to spray her ass with some bitchbegone, eh
[14:49] <fejj> heh
[14:49] <sublime> she dropped you?
[14:49] <fejj> yep
[14:50] <fejj> yup
[14:50] <fejj> like a pc with Win98 on it :\
[14:50] <sublime> I dont dig clingy chicks, thats why my girlfriend and I get along so great.
[14:50] <Spock> <---------- Too much coding and gettin' trouble therefore
[14:50] <fejj> heh
[14:50] <sublime> <--- too much sex, not enough perl.
[14:50] <fejj> don't let McCoy outta yer sites ;-)
[14:50] <sublime> there's my problem, I'm over sexed, dammit.
[14:51] <fejj> haha
[14:51] <Spock> fejj: I'll never do
[14:52] <tybollt_0_90> fejj: You sad cause you got rejected? Heck I'd be HAPPY to get rejected!
[14:52] <Spock> LOL
[14:52] <fejj> tybollt_0_90: this girl is a BABE
[14:52] <fejj> and she's (another) CS major
[14:52] <sublime> I'd do you, fejj.
[14:52] <fejj> <-- has a thing for women in CS
[14:52] <fejj> sublime: uh...
[14:52] <fejj> heh
[14:53] <Spock> <---- has a thing for sexy girls
[14:53] Action: lamfada has a thing for dancers
[14:53] <fejj> sexy + CS major = heavenly
[14:53] <tybollt_0_90> cs?
[14:54] <Spock> fejj: Yeah
[14:54] <fejj> computer science
[14:54] Action: fejj needs a hacker chick
[14:54] Action: Spock has one (nearly)
[14:54] <skibum> hehe
[14:54] <skibum> "Hey baby, I'll buy you dinner if you debug my kernel!"
[14:54] Action: fejj will basically settle for a chick that knows how to click a mouse (I'm desperate)
[14:55] <fejj> skibum: haha
[14:55] <Spock> skibum: Hey, she compiled E (with lille advices from me )
[14:55] <skibum> =]
[14:55] <lamfada> does anyone have a win98 boot disk that they can dd and send the file to me? I am checking out vmware
[14:55] <lamfada> and need one that can read a cd-rom (vmware makes it look like an IDE)
[14:56] Action: tybollt_0_90 actually wants a honey that doesn't know anything about scomputers... Chicks that dig puters are trouble, I tell you that much.
[14:56] <fejj> tybollt_0_90: yep, but I'm a sucker for em
[14:56] <Spock> tybollt_0_90: Yaeh, that's a point
[14:56] <Spock> tybollt_0_90: I can tell stories
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[14:58] <sublime> You never want a chick that knows more about your box than you do
[14:59] <sublime> you piss her off, your box will be mailing her logs of everything you do for monnths
[14:59] <sublime> and you'll never be the wiser.
[14:59] <lamfada> yeah, you will never hide your pr0n that way!
[14:59] <lamfada> :)
[14:59] <fejj> heh
[14:59] <fejj> sublime: I never had my boxen so secure till I met mel ;-)
[14:59] <sublime> hahaha
[15:00] <sublime> Who do you think taught mel about security? =P
[15:00] <fejj> ahhh, so you're who she learned it from ;-)
[15:00] <sublime> YEAP.
[15:00] <sublime> =P
[15:00] <fejj> heh
[15:01] Nick change: Spartacus_TV -> Spartauc
[15:01] Nick change: Spartauc -> Spartaucs
[15:01] <Spartaucs> Oi!
[15:01] <Spartaucs> 'I cantr spell
[15:01] <Spock> Hi Sparta
[15:01] <Spartaucs> Spock: Oi! You wil attende to the meeting?
[15:01] <Spock> Yup
[15:02] <fejj> I found myself chmod -R g-rwx,o-rwx 'ing a lot of directories
[15:02] <Spartaucs> Spock: I will nor. I am on my way to a person who does not have a vompitet.
[15:02] <Spartaucs> Spock: Tell the guys that "CHOICE" is the keyword inte evertytnig.
[15:02] <sublime> rofl
[15:02] <Spock> He
[15:02] Action: iv is idle, automatically dead [bX(l/on p/off)]
[15:03] <sublime> chmod 700 works. :)
[15:03] <Spartaucs> Spock: No RH no spackeware. no nothing. Ju st a bunch of choices! That s what satmpefe is about.
[15:03] Action: Spartaucs is vbunk
[15:03] <Spartaucs> druink that is
[15:03] <Spartaucs> drunk even
[15:03] <fejj> sublime: but I needed to do it recursively
[15:03] <Spartaucs> hahahahah½!
[15:03] <Spartaucs> i cant spell
[15:03] <Spock> Spartaucs: Yaeh you're really drunk !
[15:04] <Spock> Spartaucs: Are you really ?
[15:04] <Spartaucs> sublime; why arere you laughing??? 8)
[15:04] <sublime> spart: cus you's a funny motherfucker.
[15:04] <sublime> :P
[15:04] <fejj> heh
[15:04] <Spock> He he
[15:04] <Spartaucs> Spock: oops... i guess i am.... i eay supasues tp stody but oi guess i wont 8)
[15:04] <Spartaucs> ehhehehehe. i wlll vo going
[15:04] <sublime> damn, dude.
[15:04] <Spartaucs> d
[15:04] <Spartaucs> d
[15:04] <sublime> You need to learn how to type when drunk.
[15:04] <Spartaucs> DRUNK!!!
[15:05] <Spartaucs> sublime: ius that right? 8)
[15:05] <sublime> Its really not hard, I mean, just follow the keys around as they move.
[15:05] <Spartaucs> aweay for nor on-.
[15:05] <Spartaucs> sublime. 8)
[15:05] <Spartaucs> kktsrgfjrt
[15:05] <Spock> Spartaucs: Go to bed and sleep - that's the best ;P
[15:05] <sublime> it takes some practice, but you'll pick it up.
[15:05] <sublime> <--- king of typing while drunk.
[15:06] <sublime> I've written perl scripts drunk
[15:06] <sublime> they actually worked, and did stuff
[15:06] <fejj> sublime: heh, last thing I coded while drunk was a strobe light thing for my monitor
[15:06] <sublime> rofl
[15:06] <fejj> ;-)
[15:06] <Spock> LOL
[15:07] <Spock> fejj: Has it survived ?
[15:07] <fejj> my monitor? yea
[15:07] <Spock> cool
[15:07] <Spartaucs> Spock: no tume for skleep.n will vramr e wonam
[15:07] <fejj> I ran it on my roommate's monitor ;-)
[15:07] <sublime> rofl
[15:07] <Spock> LMAO
[15:08] <Spartaucs> Spock. dont laughe youir ass of, it might cvome in hanyd+
[15:08] <Spartaucs> .
[15:08] <Spartaucs> aya
[15:08] <Spartaucs> away
[15:08] <Spock> Spartaucs: What and how much you drank ?
[15:09] <sublime> Apparently some pretty good shit, and alot of it.
[15:09] <sublime> :P
[15:11] <Spock> Yeah
[15:13] <Spock> seen Mechanix
[15:13] <Yoda> Mechanix was last seen on IRC 26 days, 16 hours, 14 minutes and 4 seconds ago, saying: Nite all... [Sun Oct 10 02:00:26 1999]
[15:13] <Spock> Uh
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[15:14] <Invis> mmm...... nummy gpm
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[15:15] <Invis> brb
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[15:16] <Spock> yo fo
[15:16] <Fo_Gish> hi spock
[15:16] <Spock> sup ?
[15:16] <Fo_Gish> not too much how are you?
[15:16] <Spock> well
[15:16] <Spock> got E 0.16.1 to work on mccoys system
[15:17] <Spock> It rules !
[15:17] <Fo_Gish> :)
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[15:18] <Spock> Invis: I see you !
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[15:18] <Invis> Spock: that's 'cuz you're vulcan....
[15:18] <Spock> Invis: LOL, ma be
[15:18] <Invis> :)
[15:18] <Invis> hmmm.... Lenolium actually AUTHORS spruce?
[15:19] <Spock> Invis: No fejj
[15:19] <Invis> oic...
[15:19] <Invis> hmmm...
[15:19] <Invis> fejj: I love you, man...
[15:19] <fejj> ;-)
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[15:20] <Invis> fejj: nsmail sucks royal... uhm.... you know.... compared to spruce :)
[15:20] <sublime> hey fejj, send me the latest spruce snapshot
[15:20] <Spock> fejj: How long until I can sign a message ?
[15:20] <Invis> too bad I can't currently remember my e-mail password :(
[15:20] <fejj> sure
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[15:21] Action: Spock 's hdd fans are VERY dirty :(
[15:22] <fejj> Spock: hopefully soon
[15:22] <Spock> k, thx
[15:22] <needo> "The way a light attaches to a girl."
[15:22] <Spock> ?
[15:22] <Invis> fejj: btw, if you port it to windows, you'll soon find yourself on my death list :)
[15:22] <fejj> haha
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[15:28] <lamfada> does anyone have a win98 boot disk which they can dd and send me the file ?
[15:29] <lamfada> I am trying to check out vmware before my 30 days expires ...
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[15:31] <Invis> hmmmm...
[15:31] <Invis> nope, no win98....
[15:31] <mrOpie> no exim package? :/
[15:31] <Invis> sorry :(
[15:32] <lamfada> heh, I run no windows
[15:32] <Invis> me neither :(
[15:32] <Invis> er-
[15:32] <fejj> mrOpie: no cards yet :(
[15:32] <Invis> :)
[15:32] <Invis> that's not a :( thing
[15:32] <mrOpie> awwww :/
[15:32] <lamfada> no, its not
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[15:32] <lamfada> but I want to see if it will even run my games
[15:32] <Invis> yeah.... heh
[15:32] <Invis> hmnn.....
[15:33] <lamfada> The MS instructions for a machine with no OS:
[15:33] <mrOpie> fejj: I'm going to try and fnd the trackin #
[15:33] <fejj> ok
[15:33] <lamfada> from the DOS prompt, change to the cdrom drive
[15:33] <fejj> lol
[15:33] <lamfada> mrOpie: do you have a win98 boot disk which you can dd and send to me?
[15:33] <mrOpie> lamfada: not handy
[15:33] <lamfada> hmm
[15:34] <lamfada> I am trying to install win98 in vmware
[15:34] <fejj> does the win98 cd have a bootdisk directory?
[15:34] <Invis> fejj: in case it comes to that, you're not one of those evil people who hasn't grasped the concept of an uninstall script, are you?
[15:34] <lamfada> fejj: nope
[15:34] <fejj> argh
[15:34] <fejj> I have the cd
[15:35] Action: needo curses NEC
[15:35] <lamfada> well, I am borrowing a friends backup disk for this test
[15:35] <Invis> fejj: are you?
[15:35] <lamfada> if it works, I migt pay for it
[15:35] <fejj> Invis: no, there is no make uninstall I don't think
[15:35] <lamfada> but other than games, I can only think of Word
[15:35] <Invis> fejj: you suck :(
[15:35] <lamfada> and I like applix better
[15:35] <fejj> why?
[15:36] <Invis> fejj: 'cuz I like to make uninstall before I make install (for upgrading)
[15:36] <fejj> rm -f $PREFIX/bin/spruce
[15:36] <fejj> Invis: spruce is only 1 file
[15:36] <Invis> yay :)
[15:36] <Invis> well
[15:36] <Invis> it doesn't really matter :)
[15:36] <fejj> ok
[15:36] <fejj> I let automake make me a makefile
[15:36] <fejj> it's too complex to write one by hand now-a-days
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[15:37] <lamfada> gawd, these are the most useless install instructions
[15:37] <fejj> especially for cross-platform apps like spruce
[15:38] <fejj> (IRIX, *BSD, * Linux, Digital Unix, SCO, HP-UX, OS/2, etc)
[15:38] <fejj> spruce runs on em all
[15:38] <fejj> ;-)
[15:39] <fejj> mel and I actually coded it originally on Digital Unix and ported it over to Linux
[15:39] <fejj> so fear
[15:39] <fejj> ;-)
[15:40] <Invis> oic :)
[15:40] <fejj> of course...
[15:40] <fejj> the original version was console based
[15:40] <Invis> that makes good sense :)
[15:40] <Invis> icky
[15:40] <Invis> console is evil
[15:40] <fejj> heh
[15:40] <Invis> say, how can I tell if it's actually CHECKING my mail or not?
[15:41] <Invis> as in right/wrong password, etc.
[15:41] <fejj> it will say it had a problem with the passwd if there is one
[15:41] <Invis> hmm...
[15:41] <Invis> it doesn't appear to be saving my pop server settings.....
[15:41] <fejj> vi ~/.spruce/spruce.conf
[15:42] <fejj> there's a bug (that I fixed today) that solved that problem
[15:42] <fejj> er
[15:42] <Invis> oic :)
[15:42] <fejj> there was a bug, and I fixed it
[15:42] <Invis> thankies
[15:42] <fejj> in the latest cvs
[15:43] <Invis> what's meant by "mailbox"?
[15:43] <Invis> # List your pop3 servers here in the following format:
[15:43] <Invis> # pop3-server hostname:port:mailbox:login:passwd:del
[15:43] <Invis> pop3-server grandfunkhighway.com:110:
[15:43] <Invis> #
[15:43] <fejj> in spruce.conf?
[15:44] <Invis> what do I put after that?
[15:44] <fejj> oh
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[15:44] <Invis> well?
[15:44] <Invis> do I just put "mailbox"?
[15:45] <fejj> put the default mailbox to dump the mail in
[15:45] <Invis> k
[15:45] <Invis> so in this case "Inbox", right?
[15:45] <fejj> Inbox.mbx
[15:45] <fejj> for example
[15:46] <fejj> er, yea
[15:46] <fejj> don't put the .mbx
[15:46] <Invis> k
[15:46] <Invis> hmmmm...
[15:46] Action: needo shoots NEC.
[15:46] <Invis> I wish I could remember my password
[15:46] <fejj> "del" is whether you want it to delete the mail off the server or not
[15:46] <Invis> yeah, I figured that much out :)
[15:47] <fejj> ok ;-)
[15:47] <Invis> <== only half stupid
[15:47] <fejj> haha
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[15:48] <mrOpie> exim is very poorly documented
[15:48] <Invis> exim?
[15:48] <mrOpie> Invis : a mail server
[15:48] <Invis> oic
[15:49] Nick change: fejj -> fejj_away
[15:49] <Invis> hmmmmm....
[15:49] Nick change: Invis -> tired
[15:49] Nick change: tired -> tired_and_nappi
[15:49] <tired_and_nappi> god dammit
[15:49] <tired_and_nappi> let me change my god damn nickname
[15:49] <tired_and_nappi> stupid ircd
[15:50] <tired_and_nappi> bleh
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[15:50] <ChakaX> heh, ms officially sucks :>
[15:50] <ChakaX> http://www.usdoj.gov/atr/cases/f3800/msjudge.pdf
[15:50] Nick change: tired_and_nappi -> Invis-nap
[15:50] <Invis-nap> there we go
[15:50] <Invis-nap> anyway, 'nite :)
[15:50] <lamfada> night
[15:54] <needo> "I guess it would be nice if I could touch your body, I know not everybody has a body like me. But I gotta think twice before i give my heart away and I know all the games you play because I play them too. But I need some time off from that emotion time to pick my heart up from the floor."
[15:55] <lamfada> eww, George Michael, gross
[15:55] <needo> ?
[15:55] <lamfada> :)
[15:55] <needo> George Michael sings that?
[15:55] <needo> I have the Limp Bizkit version. =P
[15:55] <lamfada> I thought so ...
[15:55] <lamfada> ah
[15:55] <needo> I know he isnt the original one.
[15:56] Action: lamfada feels old
[15:56] <lamfada> I prefer to forget the eighties
[15:56] <needo> *laughs*
[15:57] <needo> Oh, well. Im outta here.
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[15:58] <lamfada> holy hell, the micorsfot trust case, the usvms.gpo.gov site is so overloaded!
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[16:04] <ChakaX> lamfada, there are mirrors now
[16:05] <lamfada> where?
[16:05] <ChakaX> usdoj.gov has pdf and wordperfect versions of the findings of fact
[16:05] <lamfada> thx
[16:05] <ChakaX> http://www.usdoj.gov/atr/cases/f3800/msjudge.pdf
[16:05] <ChakaX> ;>
[16:05] <ChakaX> they have linux listed as a "fringe OS"
[16:06] <Spock_coffee> he
[16:07] <ChakaX> I just found an html mirror...
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[16:11] <lamfada> ChakaX: where? netscape tries to open acroread, and I do not have it ...
[16:11] <ChakaX> ah, k, hang on
[16:12] <ChakaX> http://www.digithought.net/~colin/findfact.html
[16:12] <lamfada> thx
[16:12] <ChakaX> mirror it if poss, that mirror is getting alotta traffic too
[16:12] <lamfada> K
[16:12] <lamfada> its downloading
[16:12] <lamfada> done!
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